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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    S/He is referring to the Zodiac part of the quest; ilvl 125, with the dungeon drops. And I agree at this point, my highest was 7 runs for a single item. Having a ilvl 125 relic isn't going to break the game imo.
    I see, i misunderstood. Then yeah its out dated but the point still stands that they did say they will nerf it when heavensward releases so just wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    I see, i misunderstood. Then yeah its out dated by the point still stands that they did say they will nerf it when heavensward releases so just wait.
    why wait til heavensward, we waited enuf for that, i am doing my best to finish this wep in preparation for heavensward, but its so hard, now 16 runs today , and no drop? why SE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    why wait til heavensward, we waited enuf for that, i am doing my best to finish this wep in preparation for heavensward, but its so hard, now 16 runs today , and no drop? why SE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    why wait til heavensward, we waited enuf for that, i am doing my best to finish this wep in preparation for heavensward, but its so hard, now 16 runs today , and no drop? why SE?
    No, sorry..do it like the rest of us did for now. SE needs to stop invalidating peoples dedication and work. I REALLY hope SE stops catering to these kinds of people. Now, what they are doing is letting people who completed Zeta get a "leg up" in the new 3.1 Relic..and then nerfing it, THAT I am okay with. But not no..now thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    No, sorry..do it like the rest of us did for now. SE needs to stop invalidating peoples dedication and work. I REALLY hope SE stops catering to these kinds of people. Now, what they are doing is letting people who completed Zeta get a "leg up" in the new 3.1 Relic..and then nerfing it, THAT I am okay with. But not no..now thanks.
    consider this, so u got lucky with RNG, and ur so happy to have RNG on ur side, but what about the unlucky ones? who have to do 20 or 30 times 1 dungen, and no drop? have u ever thought of how lucky u were? why did u get the good side of RNG? while the others have to suffer? how selfish are u....
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    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    consider this, so u got lucky with RNG, and ur so happy to have RNG on ur side, but what about the unlucky ones? who have to do 20 or 30 times 1 dungen, and no drop? have u ever thought of how lucky u were? why did u get the good side of RNG? while the others have to suffer? how selfish are u....
    I had horrible RNG. Do not call me selfish. How judgmental are you? Only fools believe in luck. I had to run Hullbreaker over 45 times, Halatali 34, and Stone Vigil Hard for 12 HOURS. Do not even try to judge someone without asking.

    So yeah, I had a hard time..guess what I did? Sucked it up and did it. What a way to get someone to see your point of view..insult them, judge them without knowing anything, seems really legit.

    Not everyone whines, complains and expects hand me outs and nerfs because they had to deal with oh so horrible RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I had horrible RNG. Do not call me selfish. How judgmental are you? Only fools believe in luck. I had to run Hullbreaker over 45 times, Halatali 34, and Stone Vigil Hard for 12 HOURS. Do not even try to judge someone without asking.

    So yeah, I had a hard time..guess what I did? Sucked it up and did it. What a way to get someone to see your point of view..insult them, judge them without knowing anything, seems really legit.

    Not everyone whines, complains and expects hand me outs and nerfs because they had to deal with oh so horrible RNG.
    so because u suffered that, u want everyone else to suffer something pointless? why not ask SE to remove somethign as pointless as 30 or 40 runs doing the same thing over and over without any hope at the end, why not ask even it ur not gona gain anythign now, u can still help other and reduce their suffering, even if ur suffering has ended, we are suffering now still, why do we all suffer this RNG it's horrable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    No, sorry..do it like the rest of us did for now. SE needs to stop invalidating peoples dedication and work. I REALLY hope SE stops catering to these kinds of people. Now, what they are doing is letting people who completed Zeta get a "leg up" in the new 3.1 Relic..and then nerfing it, THAT I am okay with. But not no..now thanks.
    I've never understood this stand point... I have mine and don't see how it invalidates what you or I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    I've never understood this stand point... I have mine and don't see how it invalidates what you or I did.
    Because, I question what is the point of doing this grind if I wait 1-2 months and have to do half the work and get the same reward. They basically hand things to people. And yeah, before someone says OMAGAD ITS OBSOLETE BY THEN...because that is always the default response lol but well, nerfing it while its irrelevant, well no..the 2.0 relic series is still relevant, so no, there is no point in nerfing it. Zeta > Deadwrym, if you do it right. The fact that they said Zeta people get a leg up in the next update alone means they should not be nerfing it yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    so because u suffered that, u want everyone else to suffer something pointless? why not ask SE to remove somethign as pointless as 30 or 40 runs doing the same thing over and over without any hope at the end, why not ask even it ur not gona gain anythign now, u can still help other and reduce their suffering, even if ur suffering has ended, we are suffering now still, why do we all suffer this RNG it's horrable...
    Why not just hand us everything in our mail box upon logging in? I agree though in the sense that they should stop with the RNG and instead should have us fight challenging raids or bosses (Like 2.0 relic patch where it was primals, chimera and hydra) and not use relic for reused, old content. I think that is horrible. They already said they realize that and are fixing it for the expansion. Either way, regardless of what it is, I will do it..because I always do.

    It was not suffering, suffering is something much more then that..no hyperbole please. It was just time consuming lol. I would never continue doing something that makes me "suffer" so, I never suffered. Do not use straw man on me and put words in my mouth, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Nope has nothing to do with RNG. OP just wants the weapon without putting in the effort to get it, so he wants it nerfed. Another day on the official forums. Yoshida please don't constantly cave in to these people. Giving away the best weapon in the game with little to no effort is a terrible idea.
    I agree. The sheer fact of the names they are calling me and others in here because they do not agree with them says a lot about what type of person they are. Luckily in 3.1, going by the interviews of what Yoshida said, they will be going back to boss fights...heh, just wait for them to complain about how hard those are and how that stuff needs to be nerfed. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE SE XD

    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    i think u mis-understand my post and my intension. i have done hundreds of dungengs to finish my first hard earned relic, and also doing the same for my 2nd, i am doing work but getting little reward for the work i am putting. i have done a few of the items already, and each has cost me countless hours to get, and many many dungen runs ( at leaast 10 each ) , i am putting work, and ur not seeing this, then that is mis-understanding or mis-reading, and ur posting without knowledge of the subject.

    what i am trying to get here, there need to be a limit, on how many dungen runs u can go without getting any reward. i would suggest 20 runs maybe, after that u shud be rewarded the item and thats that, maybe a point system i am sure develipers can do this..
    Oh..I'm sorry you had to put in work to get the best weapon in the game. I think you might be playing the wrong genre of games. MMO always have RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post

    I agree. The sheer fact of the names they are calling me and others in here because they do not agree with them says a lot about what type of person they are. Luckily in 3.1, going by the interviews of what Yoshida said, they will be going back to boss fights...heh, just wait for them to complain about how hard those are and how that stuff needs to be nerfed. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE SE XD

    Oh..I'm sorry you had to put in work to get the best weapon in the game. I think you might be playing the wrong genre of games. MMO always have RNG.
    i called u selfish, it's because u went through something bad, and u want everyone else to go through with it just because u did. the RNG is horrable, we all know and u say u even dont like it, so why keep forcing it like this? there need to be some minimum expectation of how many hours u need to put to get a certain item, like ballparck. lets say 5 hour to 10 hour max, or, 5 to 20 dungens max. i am not saying i dont want to put work, but i am asking for some resnable expectation to finish 1 of the items, not endless grinding, without any reward in some cases
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