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    Walking is why we have mounts like chocobos and coeurls, to carry us faster than we can walk. Sprint would invalidate mounts, but Sprint only lasts for 20s on a 30s cooldown relegating it to 'gotta go fast' moments. Flying using personal wings, though, would invalidate flying mounts as why use them if I can do it myself with potentially none of the drawbacks of being on a mount (i.e. being able to attack and interact with the environment). Now if you had wings work LIKE a flying mount then maybe... but then you'd probably have those that would complain, "Why have wings if they're just like if I was using a flying mount?!" Which I would agree to an extent, why have them at all given that having them work as if walking would make them overpowered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Walking is why we have mounts like chocobos and coeurls, to carry us faster than we can walk. Sprint would invalidate mounts, but Sprint only lasts for 20s on a 30s cooldown relegating it to 'gotta go fast' moments. Flying using personal wings, though, would invalidate flying mounts as why use them if I can do it myself with potentially none of the drawbacks of being on a mount (i.e. being able to attack and interact with the environment). Now if you had wings work LIKE a flying mount then maybe... but then you'd probably have those that would complain, "Why have wings if they're just like if I was using a flying mount?!" Which I would agree to an extent, why have them at all given that having them work as if walking would make them overpowered?
    Flying with personal wings would move your character slower than flying with a mount, just like walking moves your character slower than riding a ground mount. The up side would allow your character to attack/gather/trade/etc like you could if you were on foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoner View Post
    The up side would allow your character to attack/gather/trade/etc like you could if you were on foot.
    And that is the problem, is what would make them overpowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    And that is the problem, is what would make them overpowered.
    I'm not seeing your point, if your referring to possibly being able to attack a ground target and it not being able to attack you, you're dead wrong. In Aion it's designed so if you tried attacking a ground target it would either ranged attack you or fly up to you and attack, I would expect FFXIV to be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoner View Post
    I'm not seeing your point, if your referring to possibly being able to attack a ground target and it not being able to attack you, you're dead wrong. In Aion it's designed so if you tried attacking a ground target it would either ranged attack you or fly up to you and attack, I would expect FFXIV to be the same.
    yeah a crab, coeurl, monkey..... is gonna start flying

    AION <> FFXIV

    forcing all mobs to have ranged attacks would make ranged dps life miserable while leveling , blm leveling would be a pain in the rear.....

    while i would to see a tonberry tossing knives or using ballons to fly (cute)....not gonna happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    yeah a crab, coeurl, monkey..... is gonna start flying

    AION <> FFXIV

    forcing all mobs to have ranged attacks would make ranged dps life miserable while leveling , blm leveling would be a pain in the rear.....

    while i would to see a tonberry tossing knives or using ballons to fly (cute)....not gonna happen

    Actually I just went and checked, there are also other methods ground targets could deal with flying attackers that varies from mob to mob:
    1. They might ranged attack back
    2. They might fly up and attack
    3. They have a special attack that they only use on a flying target that nullifies flight temporarily
    4. They simply run away to their out most range where they reset and regain full HP

    Low lvl crabs in Aion simply run away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoner View Post
    I'm not seeing your point, if your referring to possibly being able to attack a ground target and it not being able to attack you, you're dead wrong. In Aion it's designed so if you tried attacking a ground target it would either ranged attack you or fly up to you and attack, I would expect FFXIV to be the same.
    so you're not asking for wings, you're asking for full on aerial combat? that's tons of animation changes for every job and all the monsters as well. that's a use of development resources i would be violently against, fortunately, i'm confident there's no way they will do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    so you're not asking for wings, you're asking for full on aerial combat? that's tons of animation changes for every job and all the monsters as well. that's a use of development resources i would be violently against, fortunately, i'm confident there's no way they will do this.
    Yeah, asking for wings as a different way of flying mounts is fine and something I'd love, but aerial combat is really too much to ask. I'm rather confident the OP would happily settle for just wings as a means of transport, though. Just throwing ideas out there, I'm sure.
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