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  1. #21
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Thanks everyone! So what I'm getting from all this:

    - Suck it up and get Swiftcast. Working on that right now. Time to burn through leves again.
    - Bio II > Miasma > Bio should be DoT order in my opener (especially if using Bane)
    - Adloquium more frequently? This one is a little fuzzy as it seems to be a preference thing?
    - Cleric Stance > Aero? > Protect? > Swiftcast > Stoneskin for cross-class order
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    Thanks everyone! So what I'm getting from all this:

    - Suck it up and get Swiftcast. Working on that right now. Time to burn through leves again.
    - Bio II > Miasma > Bio should be DoT order in my opener (especially if using Bane)
    - Adloquium more frequently? This one is a little fuzzy as it seems to be a preference thing?
    - Cleric Stance > Aero? > Protect? > Swiftcast > Stoneskin for cross-class order
    That about sums it up, I use that order for my cross class skills. Use Adloquium as you see fit, at this point in the game it's sort of like your Cure II, for dealing with heavier healing loads, and for pre-buffing. Later on, you'll begin using it to buff tanks for large spike damage, but this isn't as prevalent in lower level content.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    Adloquium
    There is no perfect cast time. Healing doesn't work that way. It heals a bit less that physick but gives a shield for how much it heals (a stronger shield when it crits.) As such, if you're spamming heals because the tank sucks and you don't think you can fit in an Adloquium, then don't. It's a shield you really don't have to do anything about, which is what makes it nice.

    Honestly, I think the most important thing is learning how to manage you faery. You can have him on sic but why? It's like having a pocket healer to do your bidding and is kinda fun. It has no MP bar and it doesn't share you GCD. On obey, it'll still throw out its own heals but won't do the others unless directed so healing with Adlo while having the faery heal the same party memeber too really helps.
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    Mostly skimming this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    They mean protect.
    In low level dungeons you must make a choice: Protect or Cleric Stance.

    Every seasoned SCH will take Cleric Stance over Protect or StoneSkin.
    Tell that to the people who think they're going to die without Protect though ><

    Thankfully, there's an easy solution to that: Go in with Protect in your "first" cross-class slot, cast that, then drop Cleric Stance into the first CCS. You get your Cleric Stance, the rest of the group gets their security blanket, everyone wins!

    Sure, there's the whole 30 second lockout thing, but if the group is taking more damage than Eos can keep up with herself in that amount of time, you've got bigger problems. Much, MUCH bigger problems.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    - Adloquium more frequently? This one is a little fuzzy as it seems to be a preference thing?
    Physik should be your standard heal.
    Adloqium has some very special applications in end-game.
    In low level dungeons, I personally use it mainly before the pull and in very rare situations where physik + embrace is not enough.

    In general you should just try not to overuse it, because you might run out of mana if yo do, and refrain from spamming it.
    Spamming Adloq has a high chance that the previous shield was not used up completely, wasting it.
    So in very heal intensive situations it can be most effective to alternate between Adloq and physik.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    Physik should be your standard heal.
    Adloqium has some very special applications in end-game.
    In low level dungeons, I personally use it mainly before the pull and in very rare situations where physik + embrace is not enough.

    In general you should just try not to overuse it, because you might run out of mana if yo do, and refrain from spamming it.
    Spamming Adloq has a high chance that the previous shield was not used up completely, wasting it.
    So in very heal intensive situations it can be most effective to alternate between Adloq and physik.
    Okay, so pretty much what I have been doing. Adloquium (I am now done with underlining my skills :P) at the beginning right before the pull (like I will with Stoneskin) and then if I fall behind. If the fight is taking a while, I also will sometimes Adloquium before re-applying my DoTs in a longer fight so I have a buffer before having to switch back to healing.
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  7. #27
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    Really depends on how you use it, really. Even in large pulls, you could use adloquium frequently to create a window to cast multiple spells in a row - to bane, for example. You could use Physick to top off the tank, slap on an adloquium and pop on Cleric's Stance. But the way you use Physick, Adloquium and/or Lustrate is pure bais. Just find a balance/style that works for you. In both solo healing (4-man content) as well as healing in tandem (8-man content)
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  8. #28
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    You may not have it yet (can't remember what level you get it at) but don't forget Rouse, is nice before the eos regen (whispering dawn?)

    I wouldn't say it's absolutely vital right now, but the nearer to 50 you get the higher the need for Swiftcast, at 50 people will expect you to have it. It's not set in stone, but as general rule, it's usually better for you to be picking up the rezzes rather than the whm, due to it being quite mp intensive.

    Up until the very last pre-50 dungeons, you can stay in cleric almost the whole time and be a third dps, with the fairy keeping everyone up, only hopping out of CS to throw out a few heals if things start going badly.
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  9. #29
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    Hey ^^ Just started playing Scholar on my main, and beat t13 with it yesterday

    Some things to remember:
    Manual Control of your fairy can be nice, but selene for example can do just as well left alone on sic.
    Adlo your tank before a pull, try to get a critical, it helps!
    Eye for an eye. Use this at the start of a pull, and then again when you know large damage is coming in. (T10 adlo, stoneskin and eye for eye, with a pretimed physick can mean the tanks health wont move for critical rip.)

    DPS:
    Play a fight your first couple of times through just healing. As you do this, you will find gaps in your activity where you can fit in dps.
    In that situation, bio II, miasma II and bio.
    If you have an adlo on your tank before switching to do dps, you'll have plenty of time to cleric stance, fit that rotation, and maybe even throw in a shadowflare before having to switch back to healing.
    Rouse. Use it when you know a lot of AoE damage is incoming. Get a succor up before the AoE, press rouse, focus on your tank and let your fairy heal up the other party members.

    These are the main things i can remember at the moment. Hope they help!
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine_Intervention View Post
    Hey ^^ Just started playing Scholar on my main, and beat t13 with it yesterday

    Eye for an eye. Use this at the start of a pull, and then again when you know large damage is coming in. (T10 adlo, stoneskin and eye for eye, with a pretimed physick can mean the tanks health wont move for critical rip.)
    T13, you would surely have a WHM in party wouldn't you? Why Stoneskin as SCH with a WHM in party?
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