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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Funny thing...in games outside of Final Fantasy, Bards make decent archers. In fact it's only in the final fantasy games and ones not played well in other settings that the "squishy bard" stigma developed.
    Why WOULDN'T a class that needs to sing take up the bow instead of the sword?
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Old school bards are also good with daggers and swords. And crossbows. Pillars of Eternity has a bard that wields an arquebus. Imagine that.


    6 party members walk into a bar, all equipped with an arquebus. . . Those were pretty OP at times lol.

    I agree both to you and Kyuven that old school bards were not so singularly focused on music and capable in other matters, like living and fighting with other weapons lol. I'm in no way saying our bard now is unheard of in all fantasy, but that its just not very Final Fantasy like where while the Bards could wield many weapons their mechanical tool set was pretty focused on the theme of music and effects (and that is the change that I miss, even though I actually also very much like the DND bard). Good counter I suppose is that Bard is only 5 abilities, and actually do have a focus on songs but that seems to be a limitation of the class x job system, so now we're just talking about that lol (which 'appears' to be going away at least for the new jobs).

    The music bard may require special consideration especially moving from single player to multiplayer but it is not 'untranslatable' to an mmo. I imagine you could have designed one to meet the current philosophy of the game and still be musical class (I've seen your fun class designs, and likes of other's), whether you would have wanted that or not.. fair enough- the old school DNDeqsue Bard does make more 'logical' sense lol.

    To the question, Why would they not use something like a bow? Bow is fine :P, just the focus of ability allocation feels off for a FF game. I like my illogical preference, not that I'd ever consider unsubbing for it (the job actually finds a lot of uses in game, and the songs when used... lol, are useful)- I don't even play Bard I just didn't think it matches the old FF bard as well as it could have. "Staph then" ilu2 . Now, thanks to Duelle, I have a craving to replay a cRPG - time to find the beloved community patches.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 05-13-2015 at 04:07 PM.