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  1. #51
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    Arixtotle's Avatar
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    Masakata Izumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    I just hope they don't make the other 6 elder dragons easy. Even if that means taking them out of the story. Elder dragon and easy don't belong in the same sentence.
    I don't think Vishap is an elder dragon. Do you know of any sources that say he was?
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  2. #52
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    I don't think Vishap is an elder dragon. Do you know of any sources that say he was?


    He isn't, he's explained as "Nidhogg's champion". Nidhogg likely being one of Middie's sons since Middie says one of his sons is calling for vengeance.(and said call is what compells the dragon host to attack)

    Hidden the text just in case.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 05-13-2015 at 07:38 AM.

  3. #53
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    Kitten Luckypaw
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    If they make it so the relic weapon work I did for the past year is made to be worthless - I'm going back to FFXI, at least there your grind matters and won't be taken away. I love this game, I really do - but you can't take away people's accomplishments, not the really hard ones. I understand nerfing the Steps fight, so people can get past it and all, but damn yea I agree - easy on the nerfing of the hard stuff.
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  4. #54
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Tailtwitcher View Post
    If they make it so the relic weapon work I did for the past year is made to be worthless - I'm going back to FFXI, at least there your grind matters and won't be taken away. I love this game, I really do - but you can't take away people's accomplishments, not the really hard ones. I understand nerfing the Steps fight, so people can get past it and all, but damn yea I agree - easy on the nerfing of the hard stuff.
    Your weapon will be outdated, but having it completed will assist you in the progress of your new 'relic' weapon moving forward. So, they met you halfway.
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  5. #55
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    Rihael Eden
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Tailtwitcher View Post
    If they make it so the relic weapon work I did for the past year is made to be worthless - I'm going back to FFXI, at least there your grind matters and won't be taken away. I love this game, I really do - but you can't take away people's accomplishments, not the really hard ones. I understand nerfing the Steps fight, so people can get past it and all, but damn yea I agree - easy on the nerfing of the hard stuff.
    From an interview with Yoshida at the Eorzea Cafe a few days ago,
    Zodiac Weapon will not continue. Instead there will be a brand new weapon quest line but those using ZW's will have a slightly easier time. He didn't want to make it completely useless cause he finished a ZW weapon himself!
    So we'll get something for finishing zodiacs. Just who knows if it's worthwhile still.
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  6. #56
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    I also am of the belief that such a mechanic driven fight has no place in the main story line. Such fights should be optional content.
    It HAD to be an MSQ!
    No other action but helping kill the Dravanian Invasion Horde at the bridge was going to make the Holy See allow us to enter their realm.
    It is the outcome of that battle which changes their minds.
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  7. #57
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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Content that you must do almost every day, duty roulette or not, must be adjusted when it is too hard to clear. Every day content should be breeze to complete, maybe pose a mild challenge at launch but gets easier once more people get to do it (duty roulette expert is a good example). Any other "challenging" content should be grouped accordingly, aka extreme fights + coil fight + savage mode. These should be OPTIONAL content, and in no way shape or form be a part of daily content that most have to do every single day.
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  8. #58
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    It was getting nerfed to face roll easy because they want people to easily play the expansion they bought makes prefect sense.
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  9. #59
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    Alinda Thorn
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    Casual game is casual.
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  10. #60
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    Lin Celistine
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    It HAD to be an MSQ!
    No other action but helping kill the Dravanian Invasion Horde at the bridge was going to make the Holy See allow us to enter their realm.
    It is the outcome of that battle which changes their minds.
    That didn't have to be MSQ. That could have been the start of Heavensward through a different writing method, and MSQ could have concluded without any ties to Corethas whatsoever.
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