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    Lilyarel's Avatar
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    Am I the only one that sort of kinda likes the nerf to SoF?

    The problem with the Trial was that youre asking a random group of people over the internet to cooperate. That usually almost never ends well. With the boss having less HP than before, you can still have a chance of winning even if you miss a large cannon shot. I'm all for difficult gameplay, but the way it was before was "Oh you missed a shot? Guess what, youre screwed. Now please wait patiently for the boss to slowly walk towards your inevitable defeat." And with no way to reset the trial to a checkpoint a loss can be incredibly irritating just to go back to the one spot you screwed up on. "Missed that vital canon shot at the very end?" Hope you enjoy 10 more minutes of doing the exact same thing again.

    Take that as you will. But remember, when youre asking random people to cooperate, you have to take into account that almost no one wants to step up and give out orders and some people just refuse to cooperate even if it means a win for the team. Were humans. Were a**holes by default.
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    Rende Crow
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    The nerf is good. It was not end game content, just story content meant for all players (including casuals) to do. I'm sure you will get a few dumb comments like "This game is catering to casuals" or "Game is EZ mode nowzzz!" but honestly those comments are just dumb. There is plenty of hard mode content out there for people, and it really is not unreasonable to make content that is meant for everyone (including casuals) be able to be cleared by casuals.
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    Gralna's Avatar
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Before nerf, missing a DK wasn't an automatic failure, I had plenty of runs where we missed first one and still won, even had a run with only 3 dps where we missed a DK and still beat him.
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    I think the nerf was dumb, but I understand the reason why we needed it. Too bad people won't get the pleasure of coordinating an attack like a tactical strike, but at least people can complete the story now.
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyarel View Post
    The problem with the Trial was that you're asking a random group of people over the internet to cooperate. That usually almost never ends well.
    This is sad, but true. You'd figure FFXIV is supposed to be a game that requires teamwork (it being multi-player and all), but the truth is that most people don't want to co-operate with others. Never understood why that crowd even plays MMOs in the first place.

    I still don't think SoF really needed a nerf (after beating it without issues with my first DF group), but I guess if it'll help my friends catch up quicker for Heavensward, then it's cool.
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Since when was missing DK an auto fail... heck, had DPS on a cannon and still beat Vishap before even reaching the 3rd DK
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Faerie
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    It didn't need one. We had something outside of coil that was even somewhat difficult.
    If you cannot read, since they TELL you when to go here and there and cannot cooperate with the peoples
    then how very sad this turned out to be. People wanted to rush in and DPS race it.
    The main problem is it was gated behind the expansion so... Still, they nerfed a few dungeons outside coil because people
    teared up plenty of times. I just hope 3.0 has good stuff in new dungeons that's HARD! and not face-roll easy.

    An easier fix was either give more time during it the whole thing.
    [You were waiting an impending doom because if you missed a thingy it took forever for Vishap to get to the end
    so you were basically having a tea party as he got to the gate lol.]
    Or more time in itself. After about 2 fails, people got it together but the time limit is what was hurting a lot of people too.
    Could of given a re-start trial with the same team as well. A lot of easy fixed but the nerf bat is always numero uno. :/
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 05-13-2015 at 06:42 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Hurray for the adjustment, it is sorely needed. Now all can complete it, zerg it, finish it and move on to other things.
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Hurray for the adjustment, it is sorely needed. Now all can complete it, zerg it, finish it and move on to other things.
    That's the thing...there are no "other things" in the MSQ at the moment. This nerf was premature in my opinion.
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Given how much of a roadblock it wound up becoming a nerf was inevitable. I mean, remember, you need Steps of Faith cleared if you want access to Heavensward. If Vishap has you stomped (figuratively) then you aren't going to be enjoying any of that.
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