Am I the only one that sort of kinda likes the nerf to SoF?

[Varilae]

This is sad, but true. You'd figure FFXIV is supposed to be a game that requires teamwork (it being multi-player and all), but the truth is that most people don't want to co-operate with others. Never understood why that crowd even plays MMOs in the first place.

Completely agreed. Steps of Faith was really not that difficult. It required some basic coordination with a group, that's it. Yes, this doesn't always work out in DF and that sucks, but the fight could have been easily completed by asking people on your own server or making a PF. I find it incredibly hard to believe that any player wouldn't be able to find 7 other players who have the ability to work together to clear the fight through shout chat or PF.

If the goal of the nerf was to make the fight easier to DF when you get players who can't listen or work together, then mission accomplished.

[Chihaya]

Since when was missing DK an auto fail... heck, had DPS on a cannon and still beat Vishap before even reaching the 3rd DK

[Mugiawara]

It didn't need one. We had something outside of coil that was even somewhat difficult.
If you cannot read, since they TELL you when to go here and there and cannot cooperate with the peoples
then how very sad this turned out to be. People wanted to rush in and DPS race it.
The main problem is it was gated behind the expansion so... Still, they nerfed a few dungeons outside coil because people
teared up plenty of times. I just hope 3.0 has good stuff in new dungeons that's HARD! and not face-roll easy.

An easier fix was either give more time during it the whole thing.
[You were waiting an impending doom because if you missed a thingy it took forever for Vishap to get to the end
so you were basically having a tea party as he got to the gate lol.]
Or more time in itself. After about 2 fails, people got it together but the time limit is what was hurting a lot of people too.
Could of given a re-start trial with the same team as well. A lot of easy fixed but the nerf bat is always numero uno. :/

[Felis]

I just hope 3.0 has good stuff in new dungeons that's HARD! and not face-roll easy.

They will be only during the first 2 months hard, then they follow the path of Amdapor/Pharos Sirius/Step of Faith.
Do them before the first mini patch after 3.0 go online

[Hyrist]

It didn't need one.

Abandon rates say otherwise.

I'm sorry, but it's just flat misinformation for taking opnion as fact on this. The raw numbers were the deciding factor of the nerf.

It needed to happen, and needed to happen now. There's little over a month until heavensward and there should be no major obstructions keeping people from participating in the baseline experience they paid for when purchasing the expansion.

Those who rely on the 'get gud' argument really have no sense of economics.

[OranKells]

Abandon rates say otherwise.

I'm sorry, but it's just flat misinformation for taking opnion as fact on this. The raw numbers were the deciding factor of the nerf.

It needed to happen, and needed to happen now. There's little over a month until heavensward and there should be no major obstructions keeping people from participating in the baseline experience they paid for when purchasing the expansion.

Those who rely on the 'get gud' argument really have no sense of economics.

This was not that major an obstruction. I think it needs an easier reset button but, this trial was not that difficult; if you could just think it through and actually pay attentions to mechanics instead of burning it down. But also would it be so bad if there were any obstructions?
I appreciate SE wants everyone to experience the basic story. And maybe it isn't fair to just pick five eight teenagers with attitude out of nowhere, just tell them to stop Rita Repulsa and expect them to save the world. A team is only as good as its members.

However the way this game shoves echo down your throat every time we fail a story quest. I see level 50 paladins who don't know what shield oath is, Black mages who spam fire 3 and ONLY fire 3, and they get through it because nothing challenges them at all to learn how to play better.

I just want one fight to be a skill check. Not a gear check, not a dps check, Something simple, that shows you know your ABCs can count past 10 without taking off your shoes, and can tell the difference between a ladybug and a chimera. I feel like this fight accomplishes that, there needs to be something that keeps the bad players from advancing until they get better.

[Kikoten]

I just had a thought. I wonder if SE worded their patch notes regarding the nerfs differently, there'd have been less outrage.

For example, instead of saying they reduced such-and-such damage in Steps of Faith, they say that the Ishgardians have improved their technology, and their artillery is now reinforced with upgraded ammunition and casing. As a result, the Ishgardians' fighting spirit have deeply affected you, and together with the Ishgardians, you have become a greater force of reckoning.

[Rendecrow]

I just had a thought. I wonder if SE worded their patch notes regarding the nerfs differently, there'd have been less outrage.

For example, instead of saying they reduced such-and-such damage in Steps of Faith, they say that the Ishgardians have improved their technology, and their artillery is now reinforced with upgraded ammunition and casing. As a result, the Ishgardians' fighting spirit have deeply affected you, and together with the Ishgardians, you have become a greater force of reckoning.

No, I dont think wording it differently would have changed the response! lol

People would eventually figure out what was changed, even if it was cryptically described in the patch notes, only to mindlessly argue about it on the forums.

I personally believe that the change to SoF was good because it is required content. Coils however.... not so much.

[Luvbunny]

Hurray for the adjustment, it is sorely needed. Now all can complete it, zerg it, finish it and move on to other things.