Take it easy on the Nerfing :/

[AdamFyi]

This anti-nerf policy people seem to be adapting is highly contrary to the continued health and prosperity of the game.

I think you misunderstand; some of us welcome nerfs as long as it isn't just for the sake of a nerf. In the case of Steps of Faith, the nerf doesn't do much other than give that small leeway to clear the fight. Even so, people still wipe in the SoF post-nerf. I've had the pleasure of experiencing three of them in a row earlier because of the, "Shut up I do what I want". This trial in particular was designed with communication in mind which makes it fresh and different from the other trials. By no means is it difficult; it's the players who are making it difficult.

[Urthdigger]

Maybe if the playerbase wasn't full of pussies who drop party when roulette drops them in Steps of Fait, maybe it wouldn't have been nerfed. Sure, it wasn't hard... If you have 8 people to do it with.

[AceHunterIce]

The nerf to Steps of Faith wasn't needed. All that was needed was actual communication between the 8 members.
Honestly. It really wasn't that hard. I know I failed a couple times in the beginning but the DF group I was with kept trying, and eventually won.

I guess everyone wants a easy game.

To this i say we need something vocal
I'm on PS4 so to communicate i have to stop evrything im doing set my character on auto attack and type the message as if im typing with one finger its a pain in the arse
Curse/Skype and PS4 in game voice chats need to be implemented

And dont kill me yet with post on how this sounds stupid but im asking for IN-GAME chatting
Such as games like Call of Duty or other Video games how you can communicate with people as long as they have a mic

[AdamFyi]

I'm on PS4 so to communicate i have to stop evrything im doing set my character on auto attack and type the message as if im typing with one finger its a pain in the arse

Or you could explain everything before pulling the boss. ಠ_ಠ

[Galdous]

Something does need to be dealt with the issue of pc users having an easier time playing this game over ps4 users in the communication department. I have seen a lot of my friends quit the game because they do not have a good enough pc and how much catering the game handles with pc users over ps4. Some bahamut groups will not let people in raids if they play on a ps4. The anti ps4 crowd is pretty big and cruel. PC users will eventually get addons while ps4 will still be dealing with its limitations.

[Kallera]

Also they should have started doing this WAY before steps. Man, I fear for the expansion lol.

The reason there are two camps now is that for the longest time there was no middle ground. Either that gargoyle bosses's poison attack was lethal without an antidote, or it was harmless and solo able. As patchs went on, people began to argue and resent each other as SE favored one side or the other, and held on to the experiences they had with jerks both in and out of the game that validated their position. (And no I am not exempt from this)

I like to think steps was the end result of what coil's divisions wrought. But the seeds of discord were present even before then. As long as the game cannot provide a middleground or resources in game to review and improve ones skill this will continue to be a problem. Low clear rates do not paint a good picture for either side of the community.

[AceHunterIce]

Or you could explain everything before pulling the boss. ಠ_ಠ

^_^ this guy acts as if he dont see my lvl 50 nin
A DPS does not simply pull a boss.... Its up to the tank and some times we have "THOSE" tanks

[Hyrist]

I think you misunderstand; some of us welcome nerfs as long as it isn't just for the sake of a nerf. In the case of Steps of Faith, the nerf doesn't do much other than give that small leeway to clear the fight. Even so, people still wipe in the SoF post-nerf. I've had the pleasure of experiencing three of them in a row earlier because of the, "Shut up I do what I want". This trial in particular was designed with communication in mind which makes it fresh and different from the other trials. By no means is it difficult; it's the players who are making it difficult.

I'm speaking to the larger issue of nerf-hating here. Steps of Faith is a crutch issue that puts the larger argument to a very pontient head.

There were plenty of issues where someone attempted to follow the mechanics correctly, but encountered difficulty with either DPS checks, damage management, and other things interfering with the Co-ordination. Turn 5 and Titan Ex became progressively easier and less of a bottle neck once damage performances began to out-scale mechanical issues. Steps of Faith was tuned too high comparatively when it comes to Story Content. It's an ilvl100 fight with a difficulty that made it hard for parties with an average ilvl of under 120 to achieve, even when you followed the mechanics.

But SE stands behind the mechanics, so they're easing the DPS, Healing, and Tanking checks in hopes fewer will flat out abandon Steps of Faith on Roulette or avoid Trial Roulettes all together. If players don't, expect more adjustments to happen, and quickly. This fight gates the entirety of Heavesnward minus the new race. If SE can't get the vast majority of its playerbase to complete it, it stands to suffer a massive hit to their bottom line.

[AdamFyi]

Its up to the tank and some times we have "THOSE" tanks

Technically, some people don't even put their main job there and opt to use a crafter or gatherer instead. Apologies for that. I'm probably sure that attempting to ask the tank not to pull while you explain would be a much better alternative than staying quiet until it starts. The fight is pretty chaotic when you're throwing out instructions in the heat of battle and this may confuse people. But yeah, if we're talking about those tanks, nothing we can do. xD

[LunaHoshino]

The nerf to Steps of Faith wasn't needed. All that was needed was actual communication between the 8 members.
Honestly. It really wasn't that hard. I know I failed a couple times in the beginning but the DF group I was with kept trying, and eventually won.

I guess everyone wants a easy game.

This. I one-shot it in DF for the first time before the nerfs yesterday because my group actually took the time to work out who was going to do what. We had all of that organized and agreed on before we even started the fight... and, unsurprisingly, we cleared it with ease because people knew what they were supposed to be doing.