Calling MT huh?

[Ultimatecalibur]

I guess I should if stated I wear strength gear and hit ridiculously hard for my warrior. my butcher under defiance penalty crits hits for 1.1k. That enmity boost gets that 1.5 multiplier . Crit isn't need but it sure gives you a nice boost. Also in coils when we put i do the buerserk unchained combo and I use none of my enmity mover. I usually do storm eye first and than storms path right after. I crit for like 1.6 k and I freaking pull hate 80% of the time. Even if I don't crit im still on the PLD ass. I avoid skull sunder or butcher in the initial pull if i aint main tanking.

That's still 6990 enmity (SE Combo -> SP Combo 6 2.2 GCDs with Berserk/Unchained) vs 5824 Enmity (RoH Combo->FB->SB 5 2.5 GCDs with FoF). Without Unchained you drop from 6990 to 5255 enmity for the SE/SP combo. Warrior buff stacking is why their enmity generation is so crazy compared to Paladins.

[Blim]

Possibly a culture difference. On the JP servers, the de facto MT is ALWAYS the the B alliance tank for the entire run. All the other tanks defer to the B tank and control their aggro output to ensure it is not ripped off. Unless for some reason, they need to take it up eg. the MT dying etc or the B tank specifically requests in Alliance chat s/he is relinquishing the MT role. Never ran into a situation where tanks disagree or quarrel among themselves on who is MT or ST.

Saves alot of time and grief

[Whiteroom]

Saves alot of time and grief

Evry run on Aether is a aggro war between tanks. Is seems most of the tanks in there are FATE tanks. No expeience at all. Just level up through fates and straight to WoD. You rarely see things like Queen Scylla/Xande Clone getting interupted, Wolfsbane or Samurai getting picked up. Usually its just three tanks standing in the main boss cleave. Whenever its asked if anyone wants to be MT, no one responds. The only thing that seems to sort them out is dropping some comment about tanks swinging their peepees at the boss.
If I see my tank pick up adds, they usually get the comm.

One time after the MT spent the first half of the Angra battle spinning him around, not losing hate, but actually turning him every few seconds. I asked if we could switch MTs and she spent the rest of the match calling everyone the worst type of people in the world.

[MichaelAngelus]

I have a VIT and STR setup for PLD. I still use my VIT set in raids due to me dying cause of healers getting killed.

Unnecessary amount of health is something we can argue, but i simply dont trust the healers I meet in DF.

The VIT vs STR argument can easily end with the realization that our attributes and accessories are not supposed to be a static setup, hence they are easily changeable! Determining how to set up for a given encounter considering group makeup and fight mechanics is also a facet of game play, sometimes overlooked.

On the subject of holding enmity, it is as much of a tank job to hold it, as it is everyone else's job to monitor their own enmity as well. The UI contains a couple of elements to facilitate this, so use it well
The enmity mechanic is another aspect of the game that often goes misunderstood...If you have a tank in the party who is having a tough time, why not simply adapt to the situation? You only WIN as a group anyhow...

[Waeksyn]

I find in WoD there's always a tank or two that won't OT to pick up adds regardless of who is MT'ing. I'm fine letting the crappy tanks MT as OT is more fun anyway.

[Sanguisio]

Another thing is if you cant tank for shit, dont bother provoking and making me hate you/.

[Izsha]

MT is the easy job anyway in wod. Adds are what wipe alliances. I just let the other wannabes fight over MT and I'll pick up adds, or jump in of they die/can't keep threat.

If they want it, I say let em have it. Don't get pulled into the voke wars. You will be there to bail them out when they fail.

[karateorangutang]

MT is the easy job anyway in wod. Adds are what wipe alliances. I just let the other wannabes fight over MT and I'll pick up adds, or jump in of they die/can't keep threat.

If they want it, I say let em have it. Don't get pulled into the voke wars. You will be there to bail them out when they fail.

That worked when it was new, Now its mostly people that don't main the job so everyone will stand around and look at each other. I pick up MT usually just to keep a pace that is worthwhile in the instance.

[JohidenWolf]

The worst is PLDs who keep Shield Oath on when OTing.

[MXMoondoggie]

Possibly a culture difference. On the JP servers, the de facto MT is ALWAYS the the B alliance tank for the entire run. All the other tanks defer to the B tank and control their aggro output to ensure it is not ripped off. Unless for some reason, they need to take it up eg. the MT dying etc or the B tank specifically requests in Alliance chat s/he is relinquishing the MT role. Never ran into a situation where tanks disagree or quarrel among themselves on who is MT or ST.

Saves alot of time and grief

This is how it used to be in MMO's in general but it seems like the art of discussion was lost. Raiding wise the Tanks would discuss amongst themselves who will do what job and people would also discuss their own roles if needed but in the age of PuG "I want my loot then i will leave" raids nobody gives a crap they will just struggle through a messy unorganized ball of stress to get to what they need. There is often a really long delay at the start while all three Tanks just look at each other until somebody pulls they could probably use this time to talk about jobs for the raid and damn well stick with them. Not say "I'm OT" and then start trying to pull the boss.

The Japanese players still have that sense of the whole instead of the self in a lot of situations so they organize things so everything is done as quick as possible without arguments. It's sort of funny how much more bitching happens on western servers in runs because everyone has to wave their e peen around and be billy big spuds.