Any idea what is in patch 2.57?

[DragonSlayer45]

So the patch notes are out...

The Steps of Faith has been adjusted as follows:

• Vishap's maximum HP has been reduced.
• The maximum HP of all enemies that spawn has been reduced.
• Damage dealt by certain enemies has been reduced.
• Damage dealt by Vishap's underfoot attack has been reduced.
• Damage dealt by Bertha cannons upon exploding has been reduced.

Disappointed doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about this.

[SevarrienBladeson]

So the patch notes are out...



Disappointed doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about this.

While I do feel my labor was in vain on this trial, I can't say I'm surprised because of the crybabies. Didn't they want Titan nerfed too?

[Kikoten]

While I do feel my labor was in vain on this trial, I can't say I'm surprised because of the crybabies. Didn't they want Titan nerfed too?

At least we can be the ones who say, "Back in my day, we didn't need no derned nerfs. You youngsters got it easy!"

[Adire]

At least we can be the ones who say, "Back in my day, we didn't need no derned nerfs. You youngsters got it easy!"

Can I be that youngster who hangs out with old people because I relate to them more?

I haven't cleared it yet but was looking forward to the challenge and satisfaction of clearing it

[Nestama]

Didn't they want Titan nerfed too?

Yes, but he never was. Yoshi-P even pretty much told them to "get good" but in a "have you tried zooming your camera out?" kind of way. The complaints died down after 2.1, though. Titan's Latencyslide attack was pretty much removed from the game.

[RyuDragnier]

Disappointed doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about this.

I'm massively disappointed. We finally get a medium challenge instance and now it's going to be faceroll easy probably. So apparently we're only allowed to have super hard Coil, or piss easy everything else, since we're not allowed to have a middle ground.

So SoF is now a little easier, more people will clear and be able to enter Ishgard making for better grouping up for activites and events. How is this a bad thing? As someone has said you will no doubt still have to follow the mechanics of the fight, IMO I'd say the only change is there will be less deaths and faster kills (Vishap included).

Because if the first instances in Heavensward are as hard as the original SoF was, there will be nothing preparing them for that difficulty. We NEED for people to be prepared for more difficult things, and get better. Nerfing things like this helps nobody, it dumbs down the game's players.

[SevarrienBladeson]

I'm massively disappointed. We finally get a medium challenge instance and now it's going to be faceroll easy probably. So apparently we're only allowed to have super hard Coil, or piss easy everything else, since we're not allowed to have a middle ground.


Because if the first instances in Heavensward are as hard as the original SoF was, there will be nothing preparing them for that difficulty. We NEED for people to be prepared for more difficult things, and get better. Nerfing things like this helps nobody, it dumbs down the game's players.

Let the babes (the people who complained to SE about SoF being too hard) be spoonfed and let the real players reap the true satisfaction of victory. You know, there's Crafting, Cooking, Fishing, Blacksmithing, and others if the front lines are too hard for you all. Challenges arise, don't cower. Either you overcome or you succumb.

[Lamentations]

I'm massively disappointed. We finally get a medium challenge instance and now it's going to be faceroll easy probably. So apparently we're only allowed to have super hard Coil, or piss easy everything else, since we're not allowed to have a middle ground.

A medium challenge most people weren't prepared for already, sadly, with no rewards like those dropped in Super Hard Coil.

It is SE's own doing, not yours, mine or the rest of the player base, that we have piss-easy, or super hard with no middle ground.

If these people can "access" Ishgard/Heavensward and "still" yell about middle ground difficulty content I will jump right in there with you and tell them to man up.

If you have already personally cleared this, why is it so personal to you specifically?, tell everyone how hard core professional you cleared SOF and find some closure.

[BreathlessTao]

It is SE's own doing, not yours, mine or the rest of the player base, that we have piss-easy, or super hard with no middle ground.

This so much. This was the problem with SoF as well. We're guided through all MSQ (and many sidequests too), with both our hands held tight, given stuff like candy, and then...BAM! Suddenly something that isn't even hard, just a bit more complex, and all of a sudden all the fresh swimmers drowned. And people wonder why.......

[Nestama]

This so much. This was the problem with SoF as well. We're guided through all MSQ (and many sidequests too), with both our hands held tight, given stuff like candy, and then...BAM! Suddenly something that isn't even hard, just a bit more complex, and all of a sudden all the fresh swimmers drowned. And people wonder why.......

What's sad is that people are told exactly what to do in that fight...
The only true fix SoF needed was a loot pool. Actually reward people for the time and effort. A pat on the back and a cutscene you only see once is NOT A GOOD REWARD.