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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    The traitor is
    Lahabrea, acting through Thancred. That mystery has already been solved.

    Arenvald is still in the Waking Sands, even now. Mourning A'aba and the others but trying to carry on in their place.

    Can't blame you for the panic attack, though.
    Ahhhh, thank gods, was worried he was a traitor, glad he lived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Only pure-blooded Garleans have the third eye and magic allergy, so. Yeah. Even if he is half, he won't have the eye.
    What is this about a magic allergy? This is the first I read about it. Can you elaborate a little?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudito View Post
    What is this about a magic allergy? This is the first I read about it. Can you elaborate a little?
    Lol, it's not magic allergy.

    It's just that pure-blooded Garleans (like Gid) can't use Aether and thus magic as well. Which is why they rely on Magitek
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    They can't use Aether? Where was this explained?
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    MCKF: You look at the Garleans and again, the Garleans are a different race, the pure-blood ones with the third eye. But when you look at the army they have people of all races because they go and subjugate a nation and tell people they can gain citizenship if you join our army and prove your worth. So that’s why you have so many soldiers that are Elezen, because all the real Garleans are back home ruling while their conscripts conquer the land, sometimes using the magic that they can’t.
    From: http://gamerescape.com/2014/10/22/fa...pher-koji-fox/

    Well, they specifically can't use Magic. But since magic is the manipulation of Aether (which is also needed to boost attacks) then that could mean that they can't use aether-depended abilities as well. Which is why they were not a strong nation, but focused on farming pre-magitek
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    Last edited by myahele; 05-10-2015 at 12:05 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    From: http://gamerescape.com/2014/10/22/fa...pher-koji-fox/

    Well, they specifically can't use Magic. But since magic is the manipulation of Aether (which is also needed to boost attacks) then that could mean that they don't can't use aether-depended abilities as well. Which is why they were not a strong nation, but focused of farming pre-magitek
    Their Tech is completely reliant on cerulium because they can't naturally manipulate Aether. Cerulium use liquid crystals to make an Aether rich fuel that then has the energy converted by their machines into very similar properties to Magic thus came Magic Technology most commonly referred to as Magitech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Their Tech is completely reliant on cerulium because they can't naturally manipulate Aether. Cerulium use liquid crystals to make an Aether rich fuel that then has the energy converted by their machines into very similar properties to Magic thus came Magic Technology most commonly referred to as Magitech.
    We should get a citation for the ceruleum = crystals thing so I can add it to my list of forum quick-quotes, lol. I know it's somehow aetherially based, but I never got very far with citations for proving it's liquid crystals. I just take it for granted that people saying so must be right since I've seen it mentioned as aetherial and see the claim so often.

    Also, an aside that's more semantics than lore, but Allagan technology was magick teknologie. House Darnus (Garleans descended from the Allag) assisted in the resurrection of this technology, replacing the lost magicks with aether-based ceruleum mechanics. The portmanteau magitek applies literally to the former, so the Garleans might not be responsible for the name (and it might not apply strictly to the ceruleum creations); reinforced by the fact you can see the literal magick techology versions of Nero's ceruleum models in the Crystal Tower storyline (Death Claw, Iron Giant, Magitek Bit).
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 05-10-2015 at 03:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Sinp.
    I'm not sure which one, but I think an NPC in Northern Thanalan mentions how it works. I don't remember which NPC though so I could be wrong. And I think the Allagan had Magic AND Magitek at the same time simply calling the Magitek Machines or something. I know in the CT quest Cloning was mentioned as if it was a completely foreign word to Eorzeans let alone what it meant. But I guess 6 thousand years give or take would do that to information.

    I'll look next time I'm around and post the NPC and it's X/Y if I find him before you do Moose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    And I think the Allagan had Magic AND Magitek at the same time simply calling the Magitek Machines or something.
    I expect that's probably accurate; we haven't seen the name magitek on anything non-Garlean so far - even attacks by magick technology in the Coil.
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    It doesn't have a proper source, but...

    "Ceruleum is an energy source in Final Fantasy XIV. Ceruleum is a refined form of Aether, obtained by draining elemental Crystals of their energy, usually in processing factories. It is a powerful yet highly unstable source of energy, mainly used by Garlean Empire to power Magitek engines."

    Final Fantasy Wiki - Ceruleum

    So yeah, ceruleum is basically liquid aether extracted from crystals.
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