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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Oh, so I actually have to follow some story in (mmo)RPG? What a turnoff! I am going back to F2P www.xxxxxx.com, where story is so generic than no one reads it and I can farm mobs for weeks without reading anything! yaaaaaaay!

    Nope, this game is already bending over a lot for people who want everything immediately, no need to bend even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Nope, this game is already bending over a lot for people who want everything immediately, no need to bend even more.
    You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
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    Leo Strut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    That is the problem.
    No, it's really not.
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
    100ish quests where a very large portion are "gather this", "talk to this person" etc etc, yay! 15 quests knocked out in barely 5 minutes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
    I know it is not about game being easier. This game cannot even be easier. But there is a lot of content new players will be already able to skip including almost all the dungeons, hard and em primals etc.
    I don't really see the fact that people who buy this game won't be able to skip whole 2.0 - 2.55 and join the expansion on the first day as an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I don't really see the fact that people who buy this game won't be able to skip whole 2.0 - 2.55 and join the expansion on the first day as an issue.
    I hope you are right. I really do, but I also am very familiar with player behavior around expansion times in other MMOs. I think this is going to work better on paper than in practice.

    I truly, 100% believe in gating content, but I feel that this is the wrong kind of gate.
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    Lillia Hope
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    White Mage Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
    I personally find this as a good thing, less level gap between quests for newer players. That is of course if they are going to be getting EXP while doing the old story. ;o
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    Last edited by Lillia; 05-10-2015 at 07:59 AM.

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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
    Wait... that's a "problem"? Since when was completing a quest lower level than yourself ever considered a problem? Don't think for a second that they won't revamp the story quests to give XP bonuses on completion once the level cap rises either. It would be foolish to believe otherwise.

    So, doing low level content earning both gil AND experience to level your class to 60 in a far less tedious way than Fate grinding. And this is a problem?
    #firstworldproblems
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    Reimi Ackerman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendecrow View Post
    You really don't get it. This is not about the game being easier. This is about a smooth leveling transition from level 50 to 51 for new players. Right now there are to many level 50 quests in the main Scenario and it won't be a smooth leveling experience for new players. New players are going to feel held back when they are hitting levels 53 to 54 and still on level 50 content. That is the problem.
    I respectfully and firmly disagree. I remember when I was leveling up my first 50, the biggest annoyance I had was not leveling up fast enough to keep up with the story. When I'm engrossed in story and have to stop and go do some grinding for a while just so I can keep up with it is a little disappointing. I'd rather be a few levels ahead than behind.
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    Y'nsha Rahz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuro89 View Post
    I respectfully and firmly disagree. I remember when I was leveling up my first 50, the biggest annoyance I had was not leveling up fast enough to keep up with the story. When I'm engrossed in story and have to stop and go do some grinding for a while just so I can keep up with it is a little disappointing. I'd rather be a few levels ahead than behind.
    This is where I'm at too. Right now at level 42 or so, I need 360k xp to level and you get at best 4-5 story quests that are worth 11k each. Plus story mode can have some very sluggish feeling quests and the amount of backtracking is crazy.
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