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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Yes, but unlike the childish stunt G'raha pulled out of an inflated sense of self-importance, Desch actually had to do what he did or everyone on the Floating Continent would have died.
    Yeah, his ego was through the ceiling at that point, comapre him before and after WoD. With Heterochromia he seems much more humble, lost even. With red eyes he seems way too overconfident. "Heir to the thoughts and dreams of a lost civilization". Must make him feel very special.
    Doesn't mean that we Warriors of Light won't give him a hefty /slap if he talks down to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    But yeah, the Allagans were F*d up, and telling me that they had the tech to hijack people's lives 2000 years after they all died out doesn't exactly give me the warm fuzzies it was (apparently) meant to. How many other Allagan "sleeper agents" like G'raha are out there, oblivious that the people of 2000 years ago have decided on a role for them in their plan and care nothing for the person they could have become on their own?
    Wasn't that 5000 years ago? Just be glad that the Allagans are only using blood as a medium. Dread the possibility as to if they could actually mind swap places with people. Imagine it, one day you're gardening at your house when you get a strange headache, the next second you're in an unfamilliar place, in an unfamilliar body, watching as the world falls to pieces... You're going to die here and a stranger will be walking around in your skin.
    ....
    *Lightbulb*
    Oh... Now there's a good idea for a fic...
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    Last edited by Echofalls; 05-09-2015 at 06:39 AM.
    Summoners; the only class that are actively encouraged to constantly Ruin everything.

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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echofalls View Post
    Wasn't that 5000 years ago? Just be glad that the Allagans are only using blood as a medium. Dread the possibility as to if they could actually mind swap places with people.
    He has all of Salina's memories (among others) mixed in with his own now. I'd say there's a second person in there already, if not a third or even a fourth. And we just let him go because he said "hope" a few times. That's not going to come back to haunt us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echofalls View Post
    Yeah, his ego was through the ceiling at that point, comapre him before and after WoD. With Heterochromia he seems much more humble, lost even. With red eyes he seems way too overconfident. "Heir to the thoughts and dreams of a lost civilization". Must make him feel very special.
    Doesn't mean that we Warriors of Light won't give him a hefty /slap if he talks down to us.



    Wasn't that 5000 years ago? Just be glad that the Allagans are only using blood as a medium. Dread the possibility as to if they could actually mind swap places with people. Imagine it, one day you're gardening at your house when you get a strange headache, the next second you're in an unfamilliar place, in an unfamilliar body, watching as the world falls to pieces... You're going to die here and a stranger will be walking around in your skin.
    You mean like the possessed Miqote who gives us the weekly Tower quest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody View Post
    You mean like the possessed Miqote who gives us the weekly Tower quest?
    If I recall correctly, I believe that Noah mentioned he was only "borrowing" Koh's body, she picked up the orb containing his soul and he let himself flow into her. I'd imagine it's more of a case of shoving her mind into a corner... Where she can only watch her body do and say things she can't control... and do naught but scream.
    What I meant was more like Lovecraft's Yithians.

    On the upside though, I recently noticed that my G'raha Retainer makes his ears twitch when he smiles after finishing a venture. It's very sweet.
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    Summoners; the only class that are actively encouraged to constantly Ruin everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Hypocrite, double standard, blah blah blah. We're all hypocrites with double standards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echofalls View Post
    If I recall correctly, I believe that Noah mentioned he was only "borrowing" Koh's body, she picked up the orb containing his soul and he let himself flow into her. I'd imagine it's more of a case of shoving her mind into a corner... Where she can only watch her body do and say things she can't control... and do naught but scream.
    Any other Lore-hounds out there with an idea of how seriously we should be taking her, setting-wise? I suppose they needed some sort of justification for how we can still raid after the tower was sealed, but, of all things, the ghost of Archmagus Noah himself, ambling about the world of today in a brain-jacked Miqo'te (rather, another brain-jacked Miqo'te), muttering about how people should be free from the "shadows of the past?" And how exactly does he expect to get back to his resting place in the tower when he's done with, whatever he's doing?

    I think I'm actually more concerned at the idea of "her" being a totally inessential character in our ongoing studies of the Allagan legacy.
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    Yeah, it's kinda funny how it's pretty much hand-waived away that the soul/mind of an renowned Allagan is controlling the body of somebody.

    Though, I supposed it makes alot more sense than G'raha remembering things due to his blood
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    A thought: Maybe that possessed Miqo'te will end being the starting part of the quest for unlocking Eureka? Or failing that, part of the quest chain, with G'raha locked in the Tower Noah'Koh would be the best bet of seeing whats happening with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I suppose they needed some sort of justification for how we can still raid after the tower was sealed, but, of all things, the ghost of Archmagus Noah himself, ambling about the world of today in a brain-jacked Miqo'te (rather, another brain-jacked Miqo'te), muttering about how people should be free from the "shadows of the past?" And how exactly does he expect to get back to his resting place in the tower when he's done with, whatever he's doing?

    I think I'm actually more concerned at the idea of "her" being a totally inessential character in our ongoing studies of the Allagan legacy.
    ... What do you mean another brain-jacked-?
    Oh. Right...
    (Mental note to smack G'raha with my grimoire when next we see him)

    You'd think that NOAH would care that one of their researchers is currently being possessed by the Allagan Archmagus...? No?

    ... Do you think there's any chance we could get some... Tomestones of Technology and speed things up a bit?
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    Summoners; the only class that are actively encouraged to constantly Ruin everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Hypocrite, double standard, blah blah blah. We're all hypocrites with double standards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echofalls View Post
    ... What do you mean another brain-jacked-?
    Oh. Right...
    (Mental note to smack G'raha with my grimoire when next we see him)

    You'd think that NOAH would care that one of their researchers is currently being possessed by the Allagan Archmagus...? No?

    ... Do you think there's any chance we could get some... Tomestones of Technology and speed things up a bit?
    All we know so far is jus this big alllagan estructure, that we know as the "floating continent", where probably the new 24- raid is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    All we know so far is jus this big alllagan estructure, that we know as the "floating continent", where probably the new 24- raid is.
    They've said in the past that the new 24-man raid is going to be new content for FFXIV, and not a nostalgic one like CT was. Also that the Floating Continent is an actual world map area and not an instance.
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