DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

[Welsper59]

This point gets glazed over and ignored more often than it should.

I think it needs to be pointed out that the one or two bad eggs (grossly underestimated number btw) are the ones who are always the most noticeable. Bad behavior is always going to stand out. It just takes one person/group to ruin everything for everyone else out of fear of potential recurrence. This happens in every facet of life, so a video game community is no exception. I mean, look at the TT tournaments and the effect win-trading has on it. All it took was a minimum of 1-3 people to technically ruin it for everyone. It's because of this minority that SE needed to begin taking steps to get around it.

Look at the effect that negative players have on DF. Many of us will say "they don't represent the community as a whole", which is true, but just those handful of people are enough to make us aware of their potentially being there. The people they have already affected have been exposed to this pathetic side, and as a result, we're also made aware of the occurrence. Yeah, they may not represent everyone, but they affect everyone far more than the majority. That's why people tend to not bother addressing that... it should be self-explanatory when you think about it.

[siverstorm]

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Given our past discussion I don't feel like responding to you, not when you slowly degraded to exceptionally subtle personal insults in your last comments (can't wait to be called oversensitive or something on this one). It's not worth anyone's time or energy having to deal with someone who acts like that. After this I'm not going to respond to you.

We also have tanks and healers that hold runs hostage or intentionally troll runs with the knowledge of how long it takes for a replacement to appear should they get kicked (spoiler alert: a really long bloody time). One or two bad eggs in that situation, yet people cry and moan about the possible parser harassment as if literally everyone is going to do it.

If you let one or two bad eggs define your entire experience how are you even able to manage playing online games? Trolls are a dime a dozen no matter what you play.

You also forget if someone is openly harassing you about your dps and acting like a total fool belittling you, the group can kick that person. If you're actually playing so poorly that the group would rather keep the rude player than you then maybe you should try figuring out what's wrong? Maybe try improving? :O



To avoid that confrontation with a single troll in the future your options are:
a) Quit the game because one meanie hurt your precious feelings
b) I don't know, learn how to play semi-competently?
c) Remain blissfully ignorant.

How many people quit the game because of a single troll they encounted in an online game? If everyone was that fickle the concept of "online gaming" would've died years ago.

Also: TT tourneys are still flawed, win traders can still get top 3 for nothing, the steps SE took for that have yet to show promise. Too bad we can't vote kick people from them.

[Khemorex]

People lack respect nowadays it seems :P

That goes for both sides ^^

[Welsper59]

Trolls are a dime a dozen no matter what you play.

I just really wanted to point out that this saying implies they are the majority here as well LOL. This outright contradicts your agreement of the "one or two bad eggs" bit. Your argument shouldn't be focused on "one or two", as though it were rare, if you really believe trolls to be so common (which is something I agree with), since it completely contradicts your attempt to belittle how often bad behavior occurs.

The rest of your quote is on the defensive from this perspective. It's hard to find agreement with it, without overlooking your earlier approach of it being such a rare occurrence lol. If I do that, however, then I can almost fully agree with what you said just now lol. Although, I do outright agree about the TT stuff being flawed still. But Yoshi-P said it himself, it's a work-in-progress approach, which they might have just given up on for now since there were supposed to be more changes in 2.56 lol. What we have now was not intended to stop it, just be a band-aid fix to promoting more participation and make people still want to at least try, even if they won't rank (since trying = more MGP and plat cards). I'm assuming they won't act to punish win-trades, as nothing happened with the PvP situation, but just to get participation going and hopefully prevent bad habits somewhere down the line (that ones probably not going to happen).

As a side note, I don't recall making any insults about you on a personal level, even if subtle. I tend to try to criticize arguments, and maybe give examples that result from those arguments, more often than the person. If I did that, then apologies. I'd really like to know what it was I said though, if you can recall it. I do have a habit of being condescending towards arguments presented, and it can sometimes transition over depending on how close to home it hits for the other person.