How to encourage players to help out with clears on pf

[Darra]

Some of us don't need an incentive, in terms of an in game reward. What we'd like is for people that we're helping to actually be thankful and not act like dicks. I've seen many of the "elitist" attitudes people often talk about, but very few seem to point out that the less experienced are just as bad. I know the OP is talking about PF's specifically, but I feel DF's give veterans a bad taste of dealing with the inexperienced. For the last 4 weeks I've been doing Garuda, Titan and Ifrit Extreme in DF. Ifrit is almost pleasant, it can be brute forced with echo even with players tripping up and they seem polite overall and even thank you for advice or carrying them. The other 2 are much harder and the attitudes in them make me not want to help people in DFs any more. 2/3 Titan runs end up with mediocre players kicking the guy/girl struggling the most with plumes/landslides (whilst occasionally being hit themselves), and on a rare occasion, trying to abuse me for giving advice (apparently saying the fight can be finished without a second tank makes one a "know it all prick"). Then there is Garuda Ex, this is by far the worst. Only the DPS seem willing to admit that they are inexperienced, many players just wont bother acknowledging you've said something or asked them a question, or they just don't listen to you when you give them tips so 8/10 groups end up with me quitting first or after someone else has quit. So after putting up with so much of that in DF's, to then get the same behavior in PF's, it just puts me off joining many groups, and I don't doubt that it puts off some others too.

The second thing I'd point out, is that it's very easy for people to ignore a PF group, it's an entirely different thing if a person receives a /tell asking for help. Ignoring a PF or /shout is easy because you're not really rejecting an actual person, these recruitment methods result in diffusion of responsibility (for lack of a better term to apply here) in my eyes, I see a shout/PF and think "someone else will do it" or "someone else can do it". However, having received a /tell asking for help, saying "no" or ignoring it is a bit of a different experience. I've received a few /tells (very very rare), asking me for crafting tips or asking me to help them in dungeons or with primals and Coil clears, if I am bored and it's a fight that I like, I am more likely to join them than if I saw it in a PF or read a /shout chat.