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  1. #1741
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    Uriel Valesti
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    What is it about WoD that brings out all the baddies? That may sound pretentious but seriously, what is the deal?

    I'm already capped on my Poetics for the week so I decide that the only thing I can really do, besides level other jobs, is do WoD for the items there for glamour and w/e (I already have i120 for all my left side).

    I think I might just avoid WoD from now on. It's generally always a bad experience when I go there but when I see my PLD with 6.7K HP who wants to MT (ilvl 55 boots)? I mean.. Come on. He literally almost got 2 shot on the very first mob group. On Cerberus he lost aggro from 1 combo from a WAR, and he was constantly fighting for enmity in every fight even though he could barely take a hit. But.. that wasn't even the worst part of it...

    Where are all these bad healers coming from? Why are there WHMs who just stand around at full MP, don't bother DPSing, and cast Cure II on people when they've only lost like 300 HP?

    This is what the other WHM was like. She only used Cure II, Cure III, Regen ,and Medica II. And she used Divine Seal and SoS at weird times (SoS was absolutely useless on her since she had no enmity and was always at full MP). I had to literally tell my her to use Raise at one point too. My team got cleaves during an aggro war at one point and there were about 5 of us down. By this point I was so frustrated that she was doing literally nothing of use (I mean... Cure III on me when I'm down to 60%? Seriously?) that I spoke up and said "Can you use raise instead of doing nothing?". She was a constant nuisance because she was constantly getting killed and I dislike not being allowed to DPS because my other healer is being bad.

    I also noticed that team C's WHM was casting Holy during the cage phase of CoD. Why would you cast Holy on a single enemy? That doesn't...
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 05-03-2015 at 07:34 AM.

  2. #1742
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    @ vanille : you gave me my daily laugh the number of incompetent healers has been increasing, and not only in WoD. Probable due to the extension soon, they get "prepared". I can ´t wait to see the new healers tsunami, really...
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  3. #1743
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    @ vanille : you gave me my daily laugh the number of incompetent healers has been increasing, and not only in WoD. Probable due to the extension soon, they get "prepared". I can ´t wait to see the new healers tsunami, really...
    That's what I've been thinking. Just like the influx of brain dead tanks. It's getting pretty bad.

    I think it's just easier to notice in WoD. People wipe multiple times in a run which shouldn't happen. WoD is too freaking easy.
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  4. #1744
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
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    I recently decided to try WHM, because I was growing bored with DPS (and I'm a terrible tank).

    Still not high enough level to go on raids with WHM, but I'll definitely be keeping this in mind once I do start raiding as Healer. Also, I try to help DPS and I won't usually resort to anything beyond the basic cure and medica unless absolutely necessary, so I'm glad to know I've been doing it right.
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  5. #1745
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zysets View Post
    I recently decided to try WHM, because I was growing bored with DPS (and I'm a terrible tank).

    Still not high enough level to go on raids with WHM, but I'll definitely be keeping this in mind once I do start raiding as Healer. Also, I try to help DPS and I won't usually resort to anything beyond the basic cure and medica unless absolutely necessary, so I'm glad to know I've been doing it right.
    As long as you have some grasp on how your spells work you'll be fine. The WHM I posted about didn't seem to understand what her basic spells do.
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  6. #1746
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    Yeah, it comes with practice. Whm isn't that hard a job once you get to play with it regularly. For optimal use, the skills requiere more intuition than anything, and are very depending on situations. Try to takeas many advice as you can, from your friends, FC, party members. Also, browse through the different forums around, they contain a lot of useful datas.
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  7. #1747
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    It's not even just the obviously bad WHM's that get me lately you can know your spells and still be dumb as hell. Encountered that in Ifrit Ex the other Healer (also a WHM) had absolutely no grasp on how to handle the debuff the Healers get. I usually just swap over at the one side with the other Healer moving back in to Ifrit's butt since it makes it easier on the DPS they always know what side the Healer is but this guy didn't understand that when i ran over to switch he just stood next to me until he was being hit by the explosion and then the final nail killed half the party including me all he had to do was keep the remaining up for the last 10% while avoiding them with the debuff but he decides to run in the middle of everyone and kill them.

    After i try to explain that he shouldn't do that and he's like "oh really?" like he knew but apparently he didn't because he killed everyone. So then he starts saying "Why did i have no mana but you were almost full?" like over healing makes him good or something. The reason i have almost full mana is because i know to shroud at 75% and keep the rhythm of popping it the second it's off CD.

    So next he's complaining about the fact i want to do it the same side and swap and demands we stand on opposite sides because it's "Easier" which it's really not. I get the debuff on the DPS side when nails spawn so i have to move to the other side and he still doesn't move away from me >.<.

    The amusing thing was the same thing basically happened everyone had the damage increase debuff from other nails when the big one died so some people went down including the other WHM and i just did what he should have done in the first place and get another DPS up and heal whatever is left to finish it off. He chose to res the other Tank which is pointless at 10% you won't need a Tank swap. Most people in the party were taking his side too and somehow blaming me for not "pumping out heals" even though the reason they wiped is because the other WHM ran into the middle of them and the debuff exploded killing them all.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 05-03-2015 at 08:41 PM.

  8. #1748
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    Saseal Korei
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    WoD, during one of THOSE runs, last night.... pretty much across all the alliances, I noticed.

    Co-healer kept lagging out and dropped at Angrah. Waited till after Atmos to replace and got a new one by mid Cerb.
    It was..........rough. I tossed out a shit ton of raises because Angrah was being spun, Mortal Gaze was too hard to deal with apparently, people standing in front of Angra and getting hit by the eyebeam when they shouldn't even be standing near the front/tank as DPS, similarly with 5-headed's cleaves (too close to front) and constantly non-dodging AoEs, no matter how many times I slapped SoS and X-ethers (or Hi-Ethers? Just fast-clicked whatever was in my inv that said 'Ether', in a panic) in the cerb fight I was constantly out of MP (had to resort to medica II and then sit and hope people don't derp long enough for the HoT to help regen them all a bit while I get MP back)- so many people at one time were getting hit so often that I needed to reserve mp for Medicas/Medica IIs, rather than cures o_Oa??, I died about twice in Cerb from non-picked up Wolfsbanes, both times they appear (because I need poison seeds x 3 hurled in my face and shoving me clear across the arena), the alliances MT died several times while I'm trying to keep my group alive (or raising) - which meant mow-downs till an OT grabbed bosses....
    Luckily, our summoner was more than willing to raise me after the wolfsbane incidents. (/bow)

    And the Atmos fight after the 5 headed fiasco..... I felt a 'World of Broken' (when you just notice a temporary abnormal dip in your own ability to react to stuff. I've solo healed Atmos before.... it's the easiest fight there >_> ...and just couldn't do it well, that time. I don't even know what people were getting hit by, so terribly hard, other than the spinning discs o_O They don't hit THAT hard, and the giant has no AoEs...). People were dying on the lower platform o_oa Well, at least I now know they can be raised, down there...

    I wanted to hug that other healer for finally arriving, for at least CoD.... T^T

    Should be renamed to 'World of Derp', hands down.


    Also....
    Had run Aurum Vale on 47 SCH later on.... playing SCH with sudden large mobs about frightens me, now. o_x *Rocks in a corner* needhighhealsneedhighheals... I've never heard so many "chink!" sounds, that are made from near-death heals, in a row....

    Though, I probably shouldn't be SCHing at 3am...
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    Last edited by Saseal; 05-04-2015 at 04:19 AM.

  9. #1749
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    Oly'ver White
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Healers don't really have rotations ... WoD intense first go through
    Ok thanks for the heads up about what to expect first time doing WoD on heals. I guess when you spend so much time doing DPS I just assumed everything has some kind of rotation but I guess it makes more sense that it would be more situational
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  10. #1750
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post
    World of Derp
    I'm calling it this now. No lie. Better name for it than World of Darkness since it more embodies the raid experience. (And before anyone says anthing... I KNOW it's from FFIII)

    And that sounds horrible. I don't know what is up with WoD but it brings out the stupid in everyone it seems. This is why I'm very hesitant to ever go back. Never a good experience.
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