Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[AlexionSkylark]

That's fair, and sensible. With that in mind... what is the endless bickering in this thread about exactly?

People defending their right to be arrogant and jerkasses to people who are not as much hardcore as them. And on the other side, people calling it out for the absurdity of this manifestation.

[Noahlimits]

People defending their right to be arrogant and jerkasses to people who are not as much hardcore as them. And on the other side, people calling it out for the absurdity of this manifestation.

You don't have to be hardcore to know and perform a simple rotation as a DPS. Or cooldown rotation as a tank. Or preemptive shields and heals as a healer. Saying you aren't hardcore as an excuse to perform below the average is just lazy.

[AlexionSkylark]

You don't have to be hardcore to know and perform a simple rotation as a DPS. Or cooldown rotation as a tank. Or preemptive shields and heals as a healer.

If you noticed, I distanced myself from the dichotomy when I said "less hardcore". It's a graduated scale, not a switch.

[Noahlimits]

If you noticed, I distanced myself from the dichotomy when I said "less hardcore". It's a graduated scale, not a switch.

If you'll notice, 90% of the people who complain about bad dps are referring to people who get sub 200 in stuff like WOD. That's all a part of doing a basic and simple rotation. Even in i90 you can destroy 200dps if you're doing some semblance of a rotation. 200 is barely more than auto attacks. People don't care if others are less hardcore as them or if they're not top dps, they care more if they're below average. Because if you are doing the basics of your class, you should at least be average. It's sad that people don't even strive to be average since "it's a game and they can play how they want". Or "it's just WOD man, WHO CARES".

If adequately geared in FCOB you'll still do good damage if you're doing a proper rotation. Most players in this game don't even use offensive cooldowns. Or they use them once and never again for the rest of the fight.

Basically to sum it up the op and some of the others think that DF is serious business and every one in it should play at their skill level. And they feel disrespected/insulted when people don't or cant.

The next time you do a DF with a tank who doesn't use shield or sword oath, BLMS who only cast blizzard 3, and melee dps who don't flank and basically just auto attack while spamming the same skill over and over, tell me you won't leave or at the very least be annoyed.

[AlexionSkylark]

A Melee with an i90 weapon will have a serious difficulty pulling more than 200 DPS on most WoD fights... But hey, it's his own fault for not farming a relic, right?

[gamesmart]

A Melee with an i90 weapon will have a serious difficulty pulling more than 200 DPS on most WoD fights... But hey, it's his own fault for not farming a relic, right?

...Really?

If I weren't in class right now I'd jump right into WoD (for the first time in weeks/months) and easily prove that wrong, despite not maining a melee, or having done ANY research on rotations.

It's really not that hard.

[Cadmar]

A Melee with an i90 weapon will have a serious difficulty pulling more than 200 DPS on most WoD fights... But hey, it's his own fault for not farming a relic, right?

This is just simply a factually incorrect statement. A decent basic rotation would easily provide above 200dps with an ilvl 90 weapon in WoD. Also to take note is that WoD has a minimal ilvl requirement of 90 I believe.

[Tiggy]

A Melee with an i90 weapon will have a serious difficulty pulling more than 200 DPS on most WoD fights... But hey, it's his own fault for not farming a relic, right?

Falsely suggesting the only upgrades past 90 are extremely long grind relic weapons. Do you normally try to make a point with useless hyperbole?

1 weekly Crystal Tower Quest = Tomestone + 3 weeks of poetics = 120 weapon. In that three weeks you would easily complete the quest 2 more times and therefore have the twine to upgrade it to 130. This isn't rocket science. Your point fails, and I didn't even get into Shiva weapons for an easy 115 weapon yet.

elite - per dictionary.com
1.(often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
2.
(used with a plural verb) persons of the highest class:
Only the elite were there.
3.
a group of persons exercising the major share of authority or influence within a larger group:
the power elite of a major political party.
4. (skipping #4 as it deal with type size. lol)
Adjective
5.
representing the most choice or select; best:
an elite group of authors.



If you honestly cannot understand the negative connotation that is associated with the term "Elitist" in the gaming community, well, I just don't know. .

Not a single word in those definitions had any inherently negative connotation. You are adding that with your own prejudice. However I invite you to point out the negative words there. If you actually can.

[AlexionSkylark]

Oh yeah, he can do Final Coil and Extreme Primals... the very same content they are being shut out from by you elitists. Nice.

[Skivvy]

Falsely suggesting the only upgrades past 90 are extremely long grind relic weapons. Do you normally try to make a point with useless hyperbole?

1 weekly Crystal Tower Quest = Tomestone + 3 weeks of poetics = 120 weapon. In that three weeks you would easily complete the quest 2 more times and therefore have the twine to upgrade it to 130. This isn't rocket science. Your point fails, and I didn't even get into Shiva weapons for an easy 115 weapon yet.



Not a single word in those definitions had any inherently negative connotation. You are adding that with your own prejudice. However I invite you to point out the negative words there. If you actually can.

Uhhh, I think you need to reread my comment, Mr. Sassypants. I was advising the OP that the term they should have been using this entire thread is the term "elite". Despite what they (and obviously many others in this thread) think, an elitist is vastly different from an elite player.

The line that you conveniently left out of my quoted comment would have proved useful for you to read.


As a reminder of what I actually typed:

Skip over to Elite, and you'll have the term you're looking for.

elite - per dictionary.com
1.(often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
2.
(used with a plural verb) persons of the highest class:
Only the elite were there.
3.
a group of persons exercising the major share of authority or influence within a larger group:
the power elite of a major political party.
4. (skipping #4 as it deal with type size. lol)
Adjective
5.
representing the most choice or select; best:
an elite group of authors.



If you honestly cannot understand the negative connotation that is associated with the term "Elitist" in the gaming community, well, I just don't know. But by all means, keep claiming to be an elitist. In reading some of your comments, perhaps you truly do belong in that class.

This whole thread is a load of rubbish.