Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[Cyrus-Wallace]

OMG, marry me!

When I started this game, I started as a casual player. When I jumped into end-game, was invited to my first Coil. It was a super mess. I didn't understand how Caduceus worked. The mechanics were confusing at the time because I was used to super easy bosses like Anantaboga. As I was getting frustrated with it, I started to study every encounter, watch every video (not tutorials but actual fights to see how these mechanics work), guides (every kind of guide), I asked people, compared data. I started to become an elitist, with myself. I tried to improve, to become better. It really pisses me off when I make a mistake and I try to learn how to never repeat it. Sadly, I found myself unable to clear BCOB on time. I actually did it with echo and better gear, that was insulting on my end. My people in my group didn't want to turn it off or use a lower ilvl gear.


I hopefully got a nice static to clear SCOB back in the day. I started to love hard fights, I started to love challenges. I really liked the idea of clearing the hardest content as I was becoming better and better with this game. Sadly, swapping Coil groups tend to change that a bit as I adapt myself to the new people, but when I get the thing, I'm golden again.

As I started to love challenge, I decided to help people. Sharing my experience with end-game content. Looking for the optimal way to clear the content and improving the way I was teaching people how to do their crap. But the brick wall was there, lurking behind PF/DF As I was helping, there were people who just can't grasp any advice. Not a single explanation. They space out, they don't pay attention, they don't listen. They are completely unprepared, they sometimes have the wrong mind-set, thinking that they can just faceroll content or get carried. Now I tend to stay away from that people. I keep the people who's willing to learn and I see they can improve close to me and I help them with anything they can. The bad seeds, I kicked them out. I don't want anybody to waste my time and energy and it pisses me even more if the same people do the same with my group. A group with people who wants to clear and they share the same passion that I do.

It's not fun for ME to wipe with old content for hours. It's not fun for these people either.

[Elazu]

Okay I know grammar nazi's are the most hated people on the internet, but c'mon man...

:/

/10char

[Kosmos992k]

Okay I know grammar nazi's are the most hated people on the internet, but c'mon man...

Dude...borderline Godwin...

[Sapphic]

Here, I see "elitism" as not just being superior to others, but taking every opportunity to remind everyone else how superior you are. Whether it's bragging, or putting down others who don't meet your expectations, the attitude of superiority is what "elitism" has become known for.

You can spot them pretty easily, standing AFK for hours with their weapon drawn in busy areas posing for attention. XD

[Sapphic]

OK, then. I get it. I get it all.
Now, there's another thing you're leaving outside your argument: DF and PF are the realm of less experienced players. DF specially, but PF too.

If players post certain requirements in party finder then those who do not fit those requirements should not be joining, or at least they should plead their case to the party creator before clicking join. Otherwise all they end up with is at best being kicked from the party and more often than not, blacklisted by everyone else in the party so they can't pull the same stunt again with those players. PF is to assist players in finding players to fit a criteria. If you made a party for story dungeons and listed requirements of not skipping cutscenes and someone joined demanding you skip them, you would be in your right to remove them. Same with clear parties, farm parties or learning parties. If someone joins a learning party expecting a one shot, they are an idiot, Same as someone going first time into a fight joining a farm party expecting a carry.

The fault isn't on the players making or joining the PF with requirements, the blame is wholey on the person trying to sneak in. Actions and consequences.

It's more like they don't have a choice. It's either that or never finding a group, cuz NOBODY wants them.
N O B O D Y.

They lie by joining a prty with requirements they do not fill, they then proceed to waste the other 7 players time till they get removed.

Then you wonder why no-one wants to party with them?

[kpxmanifesto]

I think you really put too much thought into this.

[Sapphic]

You missing the point. It's the wording , a simple T10 farm Is enough description giving away that this is not a learning party nor a clear party. Saying one shot , no noobs it's a clear example of moronic idiots who believe they are amazing.

In same cases, yes. Others it's annoyance of players lieing there way into parties and wasting everyone elses turn time after time.

And don't forget it's not always the lack of ability to clear, it's the lack of practice. If you have no practice how do you expect people to clear? hence the lack of people joining a learning pf when they already cleared. Now you ask why will anyone who cleared coil (example) will join a learning party? Because YOU had help to clear stuff too as everyone else. People just forget How they started.

Well how do you think those who can clear it learnt? Whether it's through having a static or using PF. They ran learning parties or joined them. That's how they learnt, not by joining clear parties and expecting to be taught and/or carried. In other words they made an effort to learn it. So why don't those who join clear parties with zero experience do the same? They don't want to learn, stop deluding yourself, they want to be carried, end of. Otherwise they would be making an effort instead of trying to be carried by sneaking into PF parties.

They are lazy expecting everyone else to cater to them, when they can't even cater to themselves.

[Galaktica]

I look at this thread and think about the times I've heard people describe this community as awesome and now I'm just lost.

Just...wow.

[Sapphic]

That's why. You can make the party but what good is it when noone who could help with any real experience doesn't join? I see these party's and they never fill up. Thus being said whether you make it or join it, they dont fill and people leave.

Take names of those that did join, ask them if they want notifying for when you try again add them to friends list, or even make an LS and invite them. And try again, maybe a different person/s joins next time, take their names again, same thing. when you enough names taken organise between them all a day you can practice. Take it from there.

Also you don't need an experienced person in there to teach, learn together. If that is what they are really wanting to do. Also, there is access to experienced players knowledge, just do a quick google and you will find guides. Use them.

See? A little thought does help many situations if the effort is made.

[Rendecrow]

I look at this thread and think about the times I've heard people describe this community as awesome and now I'm just lost.

Just...wow.

There are bad apples in every mmo community including this one. That being said this community is significantly healthier than WoW's community. Probably because it is a newer community and people are not as stubborn as some of the 10 year WoW vets are!