Why I Decided to Become an Elitist

[Malevicton]

Except it's not both, as I said. They don't learn the lesson, but you get some free dopamines from feeling morally superior. That's the only effect.

[Intaki]

Except it's not both, as I said. They don't learn the lesson, but you get some free dopamines from feeling morally superior. That's the only effect.

I think you underestimate the effect that "You don't get to play this game for a while; keep it up and you never will again." has on a lot of toxic players. Look at League of Legends (which is one of the few games to publish this kind of data): the vast majority of people who get banned once never get banned again, and their rate of reports drops off after their ban ends.

[Malevicton]

I think you underestimate the effect that "You don't get to play this game for a while; keep it up and you never will again." has on a lot of toxic players. Look at League of Legends (which is one of the few games to publish this kind of data): the vast majority of people who get banned once never get banned again, and their rate of reports drops off after their ban ends.

I think you overestimate it tbh. I look at that same info and think to myself "these people got better at not getting caught"

[Intaki]

I think you overestimate it tbh. I look at that same info and think to myself "these people got better at not getting caught"

If being better at not being caught means being better at not being a jerk, I think the mission has been accomplished.

[Malevicton]

If being better at not being caught means being better at not being a jerk, I think the mission has been accomplished.

For LoL that might work, but in the original example you used do you think they learned a lesson about being a jerk, or about sharing parse information with strangers? Cause if anything, you might've just made it worse. You can still easily trash talk without parse info, but if someone asks for their dps, they might think that person is trying to trick them like you did.

[Rendecrow]

For LoL that might work, but in the original example you used do you think they learned a lesson about being a jerk, or about sharing parse information with strangers? Cause if anything, you might've just made it worse. You can still easily trash talk without parse info, but if someone asks for their dps, they might think that person is trying to trick them like you did.

I dont really see the issue with it. Just because it is "against the rules" does not mean that it should be. Obviously serious things like boting and rmt should be reported everytime. but parsing? Why? Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?

[Velhart]

I dont really see the issue with it. Just because it is "against the rules" does not mean that it should be. Obviously serious things like boting and rmt should be reported everytime. but parsing? Why? Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?

I am not really offering an opinion, but just stating where the facts lie. It isn't necessarily because of the parser, it is that you are using a 3rd party program to harass another player, which is technically breaking two rules there. Yoshi-P has said a lot of times that it is technically against the ToS made by SE's legal team, not him necessarily making the rule, but is not going to go after people using 3rd party programs unless it is greatly affecting the game and other people. He understands the use for them, but for legal reasons, the team has to take action when you are caught using it in public.

There really should be -something-, even if just for yourself to see how your damage is and compare it for your own self improvement. How much would it help? Not that much. It would be a step in the right direction however.

[Intaki]

Why should sharing dps numbers be a bannable offense?

If you wanna stuff your epeen down some newbs throat, I'm going to stuff the ToS down yours. Fair, no?