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    Player
    Kiroh's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Gridania
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    Soube Miseux
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    The issue isn't that only the elite post their parties, it's that those mid-tier and low-tier players who do post their groups have often had high-tier players join only to criticize and judge. They're not interested in helping a player to get better, only to rub their face in the dirt that they are 'superior' in some way. That is the real reason elitism get's such a bad rep.

    If you're just good at what you do, that's fine. It's when you grind people beneath your heel in your wake that people get annoyed and call you out. I'm not expecting every good player to go out of their way to help newcomers, but this anti-social extreme is not acceptable and someone was going to mention it sooner or later.
    Asking someone to not be a liability is not criticism, nor grinding people beneath your heel. And let's not kid ourselves, no one has fun wiping constantly no matter how much they insist. The first time it was fun, the 5th time it was amusing, the 50th time you still can't manage not to wipe to the same mechanic that has killed you 49 times before, it's not fun anymore and you're deluding yourself if you continue to claim it is.

    And why are you upset with parties you don't want to be in forming with rules you don't like? They have no obligation to lower their standards for you, and you have no inherent "right" to a spot in a group. The people who have run something 100+ times have every right to want to run with other people with the same experience as they have.

    And lastly, helping someone and carrying them are not the same things. No one expects you to be perfect, but if you can't even manage to survive at least 80% of the fight then it's not help anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Did you even read what you quoted, or just the first line? Because if you read the whole thing, you'd understand your post is completely meaningless.
    Then you go on to preach about belittling people, priceless.

    Then let me put this in a way you can comprehend.

    You have an obligation as a human being to not be a liability to everyone around you. When you absolutely refuse to take instructions because they're not phrased in a way you like, you are not living up to that obligation. If someone is being outright abusive, why would you even want to be in their group to begin with?

    Again, everyone has a right to group with equally experienced players and they have no obligation whatsoever to stroke your ego when you screw up.
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 04-29-2015 at 04:24 PM.