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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Given the stagnant state of the PC market and it's relative decline in sales, I would not be so sure. There are a hell of a lot of (by your apparent definition) "super old" PCs out there. I find it strange that so many PC players presume that everyone using a PC to play has a relatively up to date gaming rig.
    At the same time while the general public has started to slowly stop using PC's, on the gaming front PC gaming is booming like it's never before and causing speculation on if this might be the last generation of consoles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    At the same time while the general public has started to slowly stop using PC's, on the gaming front PC gaming is booming like it's never before and causing speculation on if this might be the last generation of consoles.
    And yet PS4 continues to sell like hotcakes. I'm not saying that to start an argument, it's simply a counter point to what you're saying.

    I think your analysis is flawed, and you're simply using it to justify your position. In fact, this generation of consoles has been speculated to be the last because of the increasing feasibility of streamed gameplay such as PlayStation Now. Mobile gaming has also had a huge impact on the console business with the tidal wave of money and effort thrown at casual and freemium games on mobile devices. That and the increasing "commoditization" of the hardware involved in producing photo-realistic 1080p effects could make the arguments for a new console iteration harder.

    I think it's unlikely this will be the last generation of console, and in fact I suspect Sony will push a PS5 out a couple of years before we might expect since the hardware inside the box is such a commodity now. They've been making money on every PS4 sold so far, and I think that shortening the upgrade cycle makes sense for them, much like it does for GPU makers. If anything, the next generation will bring console performance back to the mid-range gaming PC standard at launch which will be more than good enough for the majority of gamers at the time.

    With Windows and PCs in general moving towards a more mobile platform and tablet like form factor, PC gaming is actually one of the few reserves of the old style big box PC. If anything is under threat in the future it's that. The increasing costs of developing games for multiple platforms and configurations, along with the adoption of standard CPU/GPU component architectures in consoles; suggests that for developers, a closed box solution such as the PC architecture based consoles would be an increasingly attractive option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    And yet PS4 continues to sell like hotcakes. I'm not saying that to start an argument, it's simply a counter point to what you're saying.
    That's because there's a lot of console only games. And yet you don't see those of us without consoles bitching about it and saying that if we can't have it no one should. Take FFXV for example. It is CONSOLE ONLY. Should I be going on a forum and whining about not being able to play it? No because it's MY DECISION not to buy a console. Just like it's YOUR decision not to buy a PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    That's because there's a lot of console only games. And yet you don't see those of us without consoles bitching about it and saying that if we can't have it no one should. Take FFXV for example. It is CONSOLE ONLY. Should I be going on a forum and whining about not being able to play it? No because it's MY DECISION not to buy a console. Just like it's YOUR decision not to buy a PC.
    This might be a good reply, if only I was making any of the arguments that you countered.

    There are plenty of PC only games, just as there are Console only, and Tablet/phone only, or iOS only, so what's your point?

    You obviously didn't read my posts since I haven't bitched about anything in this topic, nor did I say that if consoles can't have it no one should. Quite the opposite actually, since I said that while they could have put out a character creator for the console version, it would detract from the developers time spent on the real game. I stated clearly that I prefer that they focus on the game.

    As for my decision not to buy a PC, you can roll that little cart back into your shed too since I have a laptop that's quite capable of playing FFXIV. I have purchased FFXIV for it also, however I choose to play on PS4 because it's pretty much a wash between the two for quality, and the console version of the controller interface feels far more polished.

    Honestly, if you're going to flame someone, at least have the courtesy to read their posts (the ones you're replying to) so that you can actually counter what was said, and not what you imagined to be said.

    Returning to the OP, I personally find it silly that there is a competition that is open to only one region, and even then only open to a portion of the player base in that region. Despite the fact that I think a console version of the character creator with the same video sequence as the benchmark would make a great game demo tool to drive sales on console, I don't think it's worth the effort at this stage as it would require testing and certification along with all the time and effort to do that, which is better spent on the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    At the same time while the general public has started to slowly stop using PC's, on the gaming front PC gaming is booming like it's never before and causing speculation on if this might be the last generation of consoles.
    If anything its the new consoles putting the PC's away. They can do what most lay people do with a PC and in some cases better and faster. I have a tiny little console that takes up hardly any room on the shelf under the TV, it can play games, go online, watch movies, use Netflix, Hulu, Amazon. It has a camera, play songs, play Blu-Ray, record game play, take screenshots, store photos. I can link it directly to YouTube, Facebook, etc... I don't need to upgrade it, worry about temperature, worry about turning my graphics down, ease of use. I don't think consoles are going anywhere. I love my PC I have games on there that would never run on a console, but sad to say I think the consoles will take over.
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