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Thread: Dear All Bards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    You just were with a premade team.
    I have over 2,800 comms which I've earned as a healer. Always leave with 1-3 even when being silent the whole run.
    But the same character, same appearance, same behavior, different job - and I leave without comms.
    Talk about job discrimination.
    Also singing Foe in 4 man dungeons if not right from the start of boss fight stunlocks you and you miss at least 2 GCDs attacks. Reducing magical resistance by 10% for 30 seconds barely covers damage from your 2 missed attacks.
    Syrcus tower (says so right in the chat box if you don't believe me) and no one seemed to know each other. That was not a 4 man dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo_bahamut View Post
    Agreed every time I queue and see bunch of bards on the list I cringe... specially in a reg dungeon and double bard queue... its enough to quit right then and there! > that much said on the rare miraculous occasion that they don't suck I get so surprised by it that I am paralyzed on my keyboard from shock and have to take a moment to gather myself and then you can have a pretty smooth run with multi bards... but rare, rare like winning the loto
    I'll sing for you!
    I've been in WoD runs like this. Every bard in the universe after that bard tabbard and not a single song was sung those night. Wanted to just line them up, hold my hand out and just walk that line.

    It always throws me off when I queue as bard and get another bard in party that also sings. I'm too used to being the only bard out of multiple (a makeup of 2 or so in a raid/trial) to sing anything. Had another in LoTA last night that DID sing - it took me near the end of the first boss to realize we both had Foes going at the same time xD; "*MP runs out* Boooo no more Foes -3- *checks party MPs and notices the other bard had no MP, either* o_o uh.... oops o3o;;;".
    After that I checked more closely - sure enough, we kept starting to sing at about the same time. It was disorientating (because I'd habitually keep hitting the button even after I'd realized this, but step-cancel myself), but was great! I got to tag team Foes if/when I noticed their MP was about to go out. Was also good insurance to know if shit hit the ground for the healers, one of the two of us can and do sing - and will have at least a lil mp for ballad.
    I always go happy-go-derpy when I see lots of BLMs in a raid. (My Foes, take them! \+O+/ *Buries people in music*)
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    I'm honest pretty sad with the BRDs in this thread who are defending not using Foes with "I don't have to".

    I don't have to heal you. Use a potion. Also no Proshell for you either since it's not required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saseal View Post

    *Hugs that particular ST group* 10/10 will derp my songs for them, again

    ^ Bards do get comms. o_O
    I went, I sang my heart out
    Haha, I was farming lights yesterday during a T4 window on my BLM. Noticed a BRD playing Foe, "Well I'll be damned, some of them do sing.." I gave my commendation to him in the end.
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    Yesterday went to a ST, I was lagging so I said "well, I'll be damned, BLM life will be"...
    And so, 4 BLMs and 1 BRD in the party :|

    I thought the DPS wouldnt be so great, but that one BRD sang throughout the whole run and everything was scorched down to ashes...
    Comms rained that day on the BRD.
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    I get more recommendations as a SMN that switches between Garuda and Ifrit frequently than I do as a BRD who actually sings Foes Req, Mages Ballad and Swiftsong.

    In the end, don't expect commendations for doing your job unless you're exceptional
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
    Yesterday went to a ST, I was lagging so I said "well, I'll be damned, BLM life will be"...
    And so, 4 BLMs and 1 BRD in the party :|

    I thought the DPS wouldnt be so great, but that one BRD sang throughout the whole run and everything was scorched down to ashes...
    Comms rained that day on the BRD.
    Same situation that happened to me, yesterday, in ST o_O Four BLMs and then my bard (Nine BLMs total in the raid).
    Like someone in the party said, "I love how our ADDs are just melting as soon as they appear" (in ref to Amon's ADDs appearing in our area) - I don't think -anything- knew what hit them. The power of BLMs and Foes = world domination xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I'm honest pretty sad with the BRDs in this thread who are defending not using Foes with "I don't have to".

    I don't have to heal you. Use a potion. Also no Proshell for you either since it's not required.
    If you are the healer, then you have to heal, it's your job.
    Bard's job is to dps, but it's nowhere said you have to do as much damage as possible. Foe is minmaxing damage and not necessary.
    If you want to compare not singing to not healing, then no Stoneskin is right comparison because either don't really matter.
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    Last edited by SuperZay; 04-26-2015 at 09:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    If you are the healer, then you have to heal, it's your job.
    Bard's job is to dps, but it's nowhere said you have to do as much damage as possible.
    If you want to compare not singing to not healing, then no Stoneskin or no Protect is right comparison because either don't really matter.
    you're a support/DPS hybrid. I suppose it would be clearer if they made a 4th type of role. In other words, you're supposed to be as selfless as a healer, but yet still do enough damage to carry yourself. If you're not helping your team with buffs (your primary job mechanic) then you're being selfish, if you're doing nothing but buffs, you're not exactly carrying yourself.

    A very tough class from the looks of it, but seriously I don't think that Bard was ever meant to be a straight up DPS type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I'm honest pretty sad with the BRDs in this thread who are defending not using Foes with "I don't have to".

    I don't have to heal you. Use a potion. Also no Proshell for you either since it's not required.
    Yes you have to heal people as a healer, otherwise you worse then bards that don't sing.
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