Patch 2.56 comming April 21

[LunaHoshino]

Please, 10% echo still makes it current, just a little easier. .

Some of us don't want it to be easier because we're still working on completing it. I'm only in T11, before you accuse me of being one of those hardcore raiders who beats everything in the first week. I'd just like to be able to finish Final Coil without any sort of nerfs.

[Zell1226]

Some of us don't want it to be easier because we're still working on completing it. I'm only in T11, before you accuse me of being one of those hardcore raiders who beats everything in the first week. I'd just like to be able to finish Final Coil without any sort of nerfs.

Lucky for you, echo can be toggled. What's the complaint for?

[LunaHoshino]

Lucky for you, echo can be toggled. What's the complaint for?

I just don't see why it was needed at all. It's still the current endgame-- there's nothing beyond it to encourage people to get through it for yet, so why does it need Echo already?

[Zell1226]

I just don't see why it was needed at all. It's still the current endgame-- there's nothing beyond it to encourage people to get through it for yet, so why does it need Echo already?

Probably so people who are still dying to 2% enrage can finally push it and finish the fight, and start collecting gear? Because poetics is still capped. Also so people can finish coil before 3.0 comes out, people are likely to not go back to it. They wanna get the job done before it becomes irrelevant.

[RinKaen]

Probably so people who are still dying to 2% enrage can finally push it and finish the fight, and start collecting gear? Because poetics is still capped. Also so people can finish coil before 3.0 comes out, people are likely to not go back to it. They wanna get the job done before it becomes irrelevant.

If you're hitting at enrage at 2% then people are dying, or they're not using 130 or 135 weapons. And people are already not going back in because they have all their gear. I'm only going in there to sell content now.

[Zumi]

Some of us don't want it to be easier because we're still working on completing it. I'm only in T11, before you accuse me of being one of those hardcore raiders who beats everything in the first week. I'd just like to be able to finish Final Coil without any sort of nerfs.

You can click echo off if you want to beat it without the nerfs.

[AdamFyi]

You can click echo off if you want to beat it without the nerfs.

Toggling off the echo doesn't change the mechanics to the way it was before the nerfs. Echo =/= mechanic nerfs.

[SpookyGhost]

Toggling off the echo doesn't change the mechanics to the way it was before the nerfs. Echo =/= mechanic nerfs.

There weren't any nerfs, unless you count the 3rd Shadow not spawning anymore as a nerf (I guess MNK loses stacks on the transition, but that was usually how it went anyway).

[RinKaen]

There weren't any nerfs, unless you count the 3rd Shadow not spawning anymore as a nerf (I guess MNK loses stacks on the transition, but that was usually how it went anyway).

That's less of a nerf and more a fix imo.

[AdamFyi]

There weren't any nerfs, unless you count the 3rd Shadow not spawning anymore as a nerf (I guess MNK loses stacks on the transition, but that was usually how it went anyway).

There was only one mechanical change, and I actually like that change. My group's been having to hold back on pushing the second gigaflare for awhile now because of the third add spawning regardless. Tethered gigaflare = good times!

Apologies to the both of you, I should have been a bit more clearer. I was replying to a post that was posted before the patch notes went live, and we were still discussing about possible nerfs to mechanics. They seem to be implying that clicking off the Echo removes all mechanic nerfs, which is false. Clicking the Echo off does not restore the mechanics to their pre-nerf state as seen in SCoB. As much as I like the pre-nerf SCoB, it would be horrible in the DF with or without the Echo. o: