Steps of Faith . . .

[magdahmhara]

Have the devs ever used DF and done the Livia fight in CM? If they had they would know better than to put in something like SoF, lol.

[Mokikoza]

Will the Gold seller have to clear it to get to Ishgard? Cause I would love for them to be locked out of the expansion.

[Kuwagami]

Will the Gold seller have to clear it to get to Ishgard? Cause I would love for them to be locked out of the expansion.

they will clear it. 8 BLM, nuke it to death with position hack. How do you think they farm the dungeons for materias ?

[rejaan]

[QUOTE=Bombast;2900079]Its actually a very fun fight, as long as everyones doing their part.

Which isn't even that hard. While it seems many parties need someone to shout out what to do, many people miss the fact that the NPCs are actually giving you instructions in real time. All you need to do is sort out whos on cannons and the dragon killers at the start (A 45 second job), and your good.

This is the best advice, someone shout out assign jobs, make sure everyone knows what's going on and listen to the npc's

[Leigaon]

It might get nerfed, but there is no reason to do it. I've had some good times and bad in this roulette but it always comes down to the players. I like it because it addresses the issue of players who need to be at a certain point skill and communication wise. You don't need to know full rotation but you need to understand and ask what to do if needed. You can't over power this, you can't sit back and do nothing..well I'm sure there are some who can but taking a normal 8 man group all help is required.

On the plus side you don't have to remember some large coordinated dance that has sub steps Phases.

I get players who just stand there, say nothing and they end up being new or not know what to do. But also I like that you can't expect everyone to know what to do, someone has to give a quick run down because I've had wipes where the tank is the elite one and pulls then yells when things go south. The ones that work usually someone says who to be where and to do what, people follow the directions and we win with smiles.

But that's just me, because I think a problem in this game is the players who are too afraid to say something, or don't care and say nothing to the ones who believe everyone else is playing 40 hours a week like them and demand perfection. So far with this trial there's a middle ground both kinds of players need to meet at in order to win.

I really do like this fight since it requires us to use tools that aren't just our dps skills to kill a mob that normally we would die to.

[PetiteMalFleur]

I really do like this fight since it requires us to use tools that aren't just our dps skills to kill a mob that normally we would die to.

I agree. It also requires people to step out of their comfort zone to handle different mechanics if needed. "I've only healed this" might not work for some groups and people may be asked to handle cannons or the dragon killer. It can take a wipe before people get it figured out but it is fun and worthwhile to master.

[Phileas]

This doesnt help that it still takes a fair amount of time for a party to kill even if everyone is on the ball and knows what to do. The rewards for helping are also paltry - a handful of tomestones and maybe feeble light for what might be a 15-30 min instance? No thanks.

What makes it worse is that there is no manual reset to just start over if you screwed up. Have to wait until he goes to very end...which is very annoying.


I dont mind doing this instance even on roullette but if half the party drop before it begins there is little to no point. People would rather eat the 30 min penalty for dropping than do Steps of Faith.

[seekified]

So I tanked this last night to help a BLM friend who couldn't get queue pops. After a three-minute strat talk, I had assigned everyone their roles and explained the basics, not to wait for healer raise, and so on. First try we got to 5%, second try we downed it after barrels despite missing a dragonkiller. I know everyone's not so lucky with the people you get in DF, but still - a little bit of effort goes a long way.

[Alahra]

Personally I don't mind the fight as a one-off kind of thing, but I've stopped doing Trial Roulette entirely because it's part of it.

[Discordia]

The Steps of Faith is not that hard, it just requires a lot of communication and people to do there jobs.

DF groups can be a little hit and miss on this one.

kinda sucks there is no real reason to repeat this trial it's a lot of fun

I think the main issue is that, after a few weeks, most players who've already completed this that get it in Roulette have the patience of a terrorist with a butt load of explosives on an American airplane. There are going to be players who've never did it before, and there will be mistakes, and yet on the first wipe, they will be the first to bail out. I didn't know there were no penalties for leaving (which is a shame, there ought to be)

I think this trial IS FUN, but when people don't give two shits about those players who primarily rely on DF, then it stops being fun.