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  1. #71
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    Feylie's Avatar
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    Fey Ukita
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuurei View Post
    Parry is worthless when you have better options, yeah. Those options aren't quite open to me. XD
    You gotta do what you gotta do. But it hurts my soul every time I see tanks willingly stacking parry, believing it's actually going to benefit them significantly.
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  2. #72
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    stoxastic's Avatar
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    Stox Diamond
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 60
    As lame as dropping Oaths from the GCD sounds (PLDs only want it bc WAR can do it), I think it would actually be an interesting change. It would encourage PLDs to stance dance more since as it currently stands, frequent stance dancing is terrible for dps. If you enable the ability to quickly change Oaths without losing combo, it will allow good PLDs to stance dance effectively to squeeze in more dps during safe moments. To prevent Oath spamming you could increase the mana cost on the Oaths and/or add a cooldown on them just like defiance. Maybe add another drawback such as you cannot block in Sword Oath or something.
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  3. #73
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    i would simply suggest that switching oaths does not interrupt combos like shield swipe. i've also read something on a different forum that the combo is not interrupted when you turn off shield oath, rather than going immediately to sword oath. i just don't know if it is worth doing since you'll lose the additional 50 potency from sword oath.
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    Last edited by rawker; 04-14-2015 at 02:51 AM.

  4. #74
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    i would simply suggest that switching oaths does not interrupt combos like shield swipe. i've also read something on a different forum that the combo is not interrupted when you turn off shield oath, rather than going immediately to sword oath. i just don't know if it is worth doing since you'll lose the additional 50 potency from sword oath.
    You only lose the additional 50 potency while you finish your current combo. After that, you can turn on Sword Oath.
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  5. #75
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    Niurok's Avatar
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    Gafgarion Lakshmi
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    If paladins don't get dps increase then have more skills generate threat and skills that already generate threat to have them increased to break past the cheap war snap threat they do so other tanks can't catch up. There are times that I really don't want to off tank...
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  6. #76
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    Kuurei's Avatar
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    Kurei Hitaka
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niurok View Post
    If paladins don't get dps increase then have more skills generate threat and skills that already generate threat to have them increased to break past the cheap war snap threat they do so other tanks can't catch up. There are times that I really don't want to off tank...
    TBH How many melee attacks off the normal combo rotation does Paladins have vs Warriors? Not a whole lot. I'm hoping we get evened out in terms of active abilities (even if its not necessarily an overall dps bump) so that we do a touch more than 1-2-3-occasional Spirits Within-Defensive CDs lol. Circle of Scorn isn't much, honestly.
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  7. #77
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    Pots_Talos's Avatar
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    Pots Talos
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm curious what people want PLD dps to be at? I was running T13 a few nights ago and our MT PLD in Shield Oath was pulling almost 400dps, that not enough?
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    Dovie’andi se tovya sagain

  8. #78
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Pots_Talos View Post
    I'm curious what people want PLD dps to be at? I was running T13 a few nights ago and our MT PLD in Shield Oath was pulling almost 400dps, that not enough?
    Don't... think that's possible...
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  9. #79
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    Pots Talos
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Don't... think that's possible...
    Bah you're right. I just checked my history and he was pulling roughly 330
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    Dovie’andi se tovya sagain

  10. #80
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    Stox Diamond
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pots_Talos View Post
    Bah you're right. I just checked my history and he was pulling roughly 330
    330 for entire fight unmerged? Thats still ridiculously high if he's in Shield Oath full time. Full slaying accessories?
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