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  1. #51
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    SlyTribal's Avatar
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    Sly Tribal
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    First day patch will have much better players then after. They will be much better geared then players doing it now. Thats because everyone needs it, as time goes on less and less skilled players will need it.
    Do you purposely skip past the parts saying that even i90 gear isn't needed for this fight? I'm just gonna ask this in all honesty, why do you continue to play the game? Every post of yours has been a complaint, even ones that contradict a previous one. It's clear this game isn't for you, and you just want it to be something it's not.

    The fight is super easy when people listen, take the time at the start to explain everything when someone is new. As long as cannons and dragon killer, along with tank holding adds all do their jobs correctly, it's one of the easiest trials there is in the game, just time consuming.
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  2. #52
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I don't get it... first you seem to agree that the requirements to access Ishgard are too harsh for the newbies. Now you want to make it harder for them? The ilvl is fine as it is.
    It's Nektulos, that guy complains about every single thing in this game.
    It's not a real DPS race and DPS is not the problem, it's people who TRY to DPS race everything when you HAVE to use the mechanic's.
    The game TELLS you when to get on the cannons, go to the tower and then it's up
    to the rest of you to do what you need to. How much hand holding do you need guys?
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  3. #53
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Duuude Bismarck
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiapet View Post
    Steps of faith has got to be the most annoying thing in this game. You miss one thing you're stuck.. drag out this battle for 12 mins and wait for your failure...
    I call BS on this. I was in a pt that missed the first DK AND the last DK. Killed him before the last barrier (not the final wall) went down.
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  4. #54
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Gilraen Bior
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    They could of been using full i90 allagan gear with a higher ilvl weapon, which is much MUCH better then typical ilvl 90 crafted gear.
    Wow... you know not how iL is measured. It's an average of all your gear, not just armor. Also... what? Crafted is worse? You do know that the advantage of crafted gear is performing beyond dungeon gear through the use of materia. It's how Blue Garter trounced Final Coil weeks before anyone else. Also, Coil, in it's original state, was bested in Darklight. People STILL have a hard time against Twintania in iL 120~! You're confusing iL with skill... and it's sad. Really sad.
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 04-19-2015 at 06:05 AM.

  5. #55
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Edwin Li
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    I think it less to do with raising Ilevel and more towards increasing the damage of the DragonKiller damage done to the Boss.

    The Trial always push the idea that the dragonkillers are the vital heavy damage mechanic that needs to hit the boss for taking a large chunk of its life out but the amount done by hitting the boss with all dragonkiller and explosives is only 50% of the boss's HP while the remaining 50% has to be done by constantly DoT and damaging him through the trial.

    I think it would be better if the boss being hit by all mechanics should be around 75% HP lose over the current 50% lost of HP since most groups formed by DF will not meet the required DPS check to take out the boss's remaining 50% HP but most of them do meet the requirement to take out at least 25% HP in a DF group.
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  6. #56
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    rjspencer4's Avatar
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    Mac Anu
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    Character
    Despair Senpai
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Fight needs harsher IQ level requirement instead.
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  7. #57
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by rjspencer4 View Post
    Fight needs harsher IQ level requirement instead.
    The lower ilevel is to make it so the terribad players can be carried. The instance is doable 7 player.
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  8. #58
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Miranda Madison
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Apparently the OP and his scant supporters don't understand clearly defined arguments so I'll just break it down to it's simplest. iL can't cure stupid. iL is not a measure of skill, it's a measure of tenacity. You can push yourself up to iL 115 without ever touching any of the truly difficult content. Square did that on purpose so those NOT running the truly difficult content can catch up to those who do. But... iL can't cure stupid. Steps of Faith can never be won... if you're stupid.
    I think you're awesome.
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  9. #59
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    T'aretha Tyaka
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Use cannons, no ilevel needed. ADDS aren't meant to be butchered by facerolling them without cannons.
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  10. #60
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Character
    Koala Shibito
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    The fight lets you know when to use the mechanics that are the key to success in the fight. Ilvl90 is more than enough to see the Trial through, players just need to realize there are mechanics you need to follow and use and ilv105-110 isn't going to do that for them.
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