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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Steps of Faith needs an ilevel raise...

    I don't normally ask this, but because of the nature of the zone it should not be ilevel 90. Unlike most zones before it and WoD you seriously need that DPS and ilevel 90s pretty much just drag everyone else down. They simply don't have the DPS for the final boss and the adds, or the raw health to survive the AoEs. That is why so many people leave.

    I'm not asking for the zone to be nerfed in any way though.

    My recommended ilevel for the zone is 105-110. Which shouldn't be too hard for anyone whose made it that far. I have 2 toons who are both ilevel 115 and i've only been playing for 2 months.
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    No, so many people leave because people are stupid and don't want to think.

    Steps of Faith isn't innately hard. The people on the other hand.
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    Its not a dps issue, if you hit the dragon with the weapons available then i90 is more then enough to kill it in time.

    Heck its not even a hard fight but since it takes more then 5 minutes to complete and offers no reward players will run away from it as if it was a plague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    Its not a dps issue, if you hit the dragon with the weapons available then i90 is more then enough to kill it in time.

    Heck its not even a hard fight but since it takes more then 5 minutes to complete and offers no reward players will run away from it as if it was a plague.
    Quoted For Truth.
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    I do somewhat agree with this... but somewhat not... If the i90 person knows what they're doing they should be able to do it no problem. :P Problem is most don't know how to push their abilities and job to its fullest, so higher ilevel covers up for bad players.

    I did it on one of my alts, whom was about ilv90

    My aggro on vishap was higher than the DPS who were all decked out in their full 120-130 gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I do somewhat agree with this... but somewhat not... If the i90 person knows what they're doing they should be able to do it no problem. :P Problem is most don't know how to push their abilities and job to its fullest, so higher ilevel covers up for bad players.

    I did it on one of my alts, whom was about ilv90

    My aggro on vishap was higher than the DPS who were all decked out in their full 120-130 gear.
    The ilvl 90 person has a significant disadvantage in health which is the biggest issue. I see most people just getting one shotted when I survive with 20% health and get healed. Its not just DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    The ilvl 90 person has a significant disadvantage in health which is the biggest issue. I see most people just getting one shotted when I survive with 20% health and get healed. Its not just DPS.
    Hint: Your not suppose to get hit by the AOEs. It's called dodging lmao. This is the same reason people can't get past t5, because no matter how high your gear is, twister still kills you. Thank goodness for it too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    The ilvl 90 person has a significant disadvantage in health which is the biggest issue. I see most people just getting one shotted when I survive with 20% health and get healed. Its not just DPS.
    But as a DPS they shouldn't be getting hit by anything that will kill them. Like... What are they doing? Standing under his feet? OF COURSE THEY'RE GETTING ONE SHOT!

    Also, like I said, I did this at i90 no problem, my health was not an issue. If they're getting hit with things, gear is only a crutch. Forgive me if I don't think they should be progressing if they're not going to get out of the aoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    But as a DPS they shouldn't be getting hit by anything that will kill them. Like... What are they doing? Standing under his feet? OF COURSE THEY'RE GETTING ONE SHOT!

    Also, like I said, I did this at i90 no problem, my health was not an issue. If they're getting hit with things, gear is only a crutch. Forgive me if I don't think they should be progressing if they're not going to get out of the aoes.
    I never said you can't do this at i90, however when it first came out I'd imagine you were playing with much better geared people then now.

    Also, an ilevel 90 player probably has not even got into Crystal Tower, or barely getting into it. Which is a much easier zone and the zone actually teaches you things.

    The zones you do to get poetics/soldiery does as well.

    An ilevel 100-110 player has a lot more experience, due to the zones they are probably doing.

    I am saying this completely from a healer's prospective.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 04-19-2015 at 02:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I never said you can't do this at i90, however when it first came out I'd imagine you were playing with much better geared people then now.
    If it can be done then there is no reason to up the ilvl. Yes, when I first did it on my main, whom is 129, everyone was well geared, but I have three alts that I have had to get through it one by one. :3 It was not always fun running through it with low geared people, buuuut is is doable, people just need to do the mechanics, dodge and play their class correctly.

    More experience/gear is nice, but all the same, not necessity.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 04-19-2015 at 02:51 AM.

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