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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I never said you can't do this at i90, however when it first came out I'd imagine you were playing with much better geared people then now.
    If it can be done then there is no reason to up the ilvl. Yes, when I first did it on my main, whom is 129, everyone was well geared, but I have three alts that I have had to get through it one by one. :3 It was not always fun running through it with low geared people, buuuut is is doable, people just need to do the mechanics, dodge and play their class correctly.

    More experience/gear is nice, but all the same, not necessity.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 04-19-2015 at 02:51 AM.

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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    If it can be done then there is no reason to up the ilvl. Yes, when I first did it on my main, whom is 129, everyone was well geared, but I have three alts that I have had to get through it one by one. :3 It was not always fun running through it with low geared people, buuuut is is doable, people just need to do the mechanics, dodge and play their class correctly.
    When they don't even know basic mechanics because they haven't experienced raiding type content before then the ilevel increase would be a HUUUUGE HELP!

    Most Ilevel 90 players are fresh from quests and low level dungeons and crafted gear with no materia.

    POST LIMIT!

    People DOOOO NEED TO LEARN, but at the cost of everyone else, wiping multiple times, and the fact they know they might be holding everyone back just makes them FEEL bad.

    I qued up again today, and both tanks IMMEDIATELY left.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 04-19-2015 at 03:00 AM.

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    Sorry, but I'm going to have to say a certain iLVL lockout isn't going to make any difference. If tanks don't pull trash to the front, if people don't use cannons, if people don't stay out of AOEs, don't avoid getting stepped on and coordinate to attack Vishap while doing all that, then having a few extra points in DPS/HP isn't going to make much difference
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    Yes, but they need to learn, and I think that doing things at the bare minimum gear level is a good way to learn, because you cannot afford mess ups~ They will be better players later on for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    The adds aren't meant to be attacked directly, you do know that right? The tank is supposed to consolidate them so that they are all hit with cannon fire. It's why the cannons fire goop and stun shot as well as normal fire. Vishap, himself, is immune to slow and stun. Coordination... why is this such a foreign concept to you?
    Agreed.. Its only a hard encounter because people are not coordinating. This trial is almost test of everything you've learned up to this point, if you still have problems with dodging, Stunning, Herding mobs together (tank), using abilities properly, not standing in the stuff that hurts you, and trying not to be a tunnel vision player? No iLv over 90 can help you at that point. And your sturggle going into heavensward is only gonna to get worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadub2k View Post
    Agreed.. Its only a hard encounter because people are not coordinating. This trial is almost test of everything you've learned up to this point, if you still have problems with dodging, Stunning, Herding mobs together (tank), using abilities properly, not standing in the stuff that hurts you, and trying not to be a tunnel vision player? No iLv over 90 can help you at that point. And your sturggle going into heavensward is only gonna to get worst.
    If your still ilevel 90 then you actually haven't experienced much yet. You barely have even got into WoD or hard instances. After doing that I ended up at ilevel105 at least.

    You don't have much of any experience. It should be 100 at least, that way you have SOME experience.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 04-19-2015 at 04:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
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    There are still people not capable of clearing Titan Ex even with ilvls at 130. Now, there are a few factors to keep in mind with Steps of Faith. Steps of Faith is more about communication and teamwork. In fact if done right Steps can and is solo healed/tanked meaning very little damage is coming in to the team. The point is ilvl has little to do with it. This game is designed around not failing to dodge/avoid instant kill mechanics. You can focus on ilvl all you want but it is irrelevant. Case in point people with an ilvl of 130 still are unable to clear places such as T5 or any of the Primal ex fights.
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