The relic weapon quest is OBSCENELY boring...

[Snitchie]

Im now at the Alexandrite part. I have gathered 7 of the 75 i need. And after reading that the Relic most likely will be a glaomur piece when Expansion launches 3.1... So what is the point now ?? RNG alexandrite. and spend huge amounts of gil on Materia.... I thought SE would let the Relic evolve all the way from ARR and into the future. Hence why I chose the Relic path and not ironworks LEviathan or other weapons. ..

But since I have started Zodiac now I must finish it. But will hold back the materia mending part as long as i can. So we can get some 100% facts about the future for Relics. If it goes "away" new relics etc. I will do cheap materia. If not we go the high road.

Just my thoughts. And yes its grindy as F. But then again not ment to grind it in one big go, but over days/weeks/months (also WHY we need it to evolve in expansion... argh)

[Carvaka]

I actually enjoy it. Didn't mind the Atma grind, but I did get it with the increased drop rate. Doing the books now and enjoying them, I may be singing a different tune when I am hunting 2000 light, but will see.

[Sartori]

It is the most grindy, tedious, monotonous, bland thing I have seen in any MMO I have ever played, and I've played Lineage 1.

It's one thing to do a lot of stuff that's either fun or at LEAST challenging.

It's entirely another to give us a checklist of random, boring, unchallenging crap and tell us to hop to it...

The book phase is literally, "You know all that content you JUST did to level up? Yeah, go do it again, only this time with no reward for doing so..."

So don't do it, go buy a weapon, problem solved

[Hayward]

I've finished the Apocalypse Zeta but I have no immediate plans to finish off the book phase of either the Thyrus or Yoshimitsu anytime soon. If the Poetics cap is lifted, I may abandon them entirely in favor of Ironworks Magitek weapons (SMN is my main job, so every other job is just for fun).

[Chevrefoil]

Relic weapon is not necessary if you just want a good weapon.

So if you hate the grind, don't do it.

I personally enjoy it and feel that it gives me something to work towards. Maybe you need to spend less time grinding and just let pieces (atma, alexandrite, etc) come as they will.

[Lemuria]

So don't do it, go buy a weapon, problem solved

Can people please stop using this tired, worthless argument? It's the argument people use when they can't think of a better rebuttal. The argument that 'well, maybe that content isn't designed for you' is a ridiculous and archaic logic, because it doesn't excuse poorly designed and BORING content.

Perhaps it's convenient for some people to sweep the cobwebs under the rug so people pretend they don't notice any more. Perhaps it somehow justifies their own time wasted on the content, because they ground out this rubbish for hours and now feel some sense of entitlement towards their token reward. Whatever the reason, stop... just stop. There is a clear and defined FAILING in content which rehashes old ground for the sake of it and flatlines your visible progress.

Let's stop making up excuses for this content being rubbish, and just admit it sucks. Justifying bad content just gives them an excuse to continue these silly design decisions in the future. Take a step outside the bubble for a few seconds to look at the big picture and you'll realize what an utter train-wreck the entire zodiac quest line is. Let's not make any more excuses for them and start pitching suggestions TO them for improvements.

Things will never get better if we accept it like good little sheep.

[LaylaTsarra]

Relic weapon is not necessary if you just want a good weapon.

So if you hate the grind, don't do it.

I personally enjoy it and feel that it gives me something to work towards. Maybe you need to spend less time grinding and just let pieces (atma, alexandrite, etc) come as they will.

I enjoy it too. I think the relic quest over all is fine especially after having nerfed some of the harder content like ATMA drops and Light Farming. It's amazing how many relics I see these days in many of the dungeons and raids and a good number of people have more than one. Since the weapon hit ilevel 135 it seems to have exploded in interest with many of my friends.

[Socomlord]

Been stuck on the nexus rng for about 2 months now. Only have gotten 5 drops lol. But what I wanted to say is relic won't be a glamour yoshi stated it will always be relevant and bis one day

[HulveinBlitz]

You gotta realise why they did it. It's the same reason why DF has been tweaked to match you with lesser experienced people/new. It's all about ensuring those newbies coming in, don't instantly run away from the long ass queue times (even more than they do already) / never get into the duty. Or the fact, if they didn't ask you to do some old ass dungeons, you'd probably never touch them again (unless levelling).

Same reason why they try to throw housing drops in these places. So they least get some of you to run it. So what do they do? Build the newer content, around older content. Get used to seeing this as long as this game is alive, and going. Because the day they just make newer content, include recent inductions.. is the day this section is filled with "I'm new, and I cannot seem to get into XYZ dungeons". Which is ultimately, yes you guessed it, a loss of money.

Even if they nerf the relic line, they won't remove the fact you'll still need to run these dungeons. The nerfs are usually only the costs of items from tomes, the chance of a drop, and the amount of lights. So yeah, 3.0.. get used to seeing those new 8 dungeons all the time, throughout the expansion. One can only hope, that its a more engaging relic line.

[dekal]

If they could increase a little bit more the drop rate to get atmas (like a 1% max) I don't mind the grind part because I have play ofther MMOs where your leveling depend entirely on your grind time. There is not dungeons to spam to level faster, at least you are in an elite guild that won a war and get a dungeon with just a slight better % but not by a lot. It is amazing how easy is to get exp here. I get half my exp bar in one run and a bit more with exp food until level 40 and then like 25%. One thing I do agree with some people saying that SE need to improve some aspects in game.