Add a Parser that only the player can see.

[CxRob]

Without seeing other people's DPS then there's no context if your numbers are good or bad though. So someone that isn't informed will continue thinking they are doing well when they are not.

Anyway, if they add in something like this it needs to be all or nothing.



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It is easy to find what dps numbers you should be putting out on certain raids with your ilvl. I just think it will help players improve, personally I just want to know how I am doing then I ask my fc members for advice on my dpsing.

[Viridiana]

It is easy to find what dps numbers you should be putting out on certain raids with your ilvl. I just think it will help players improve, personally I just want to know how I am doing then I ask my fc members for advice on my dpsing.

If you go outside the game, sure. But people who go outside the game for advice aren't really the target here, no?

[Kittyband]

Well you did a good job on making yourself sound arrogant and silly on this one.

I mean hell, fotm isn't even a thing on this game because they balance the classes well enough to where class balancing doesn't happen or NEED to happen every damn month like in certain un-named MMOs.

My terminology was wrong but my point was that people will use parsers to simply exclude classes they don't feel do enough, there are people who dislike SMN, DRG etc saying they don't do enough damage. This would only give these types more fuel to the fire. And yes, people abusing parsers would be using the strongest classes they can simply to justify their misuse of the tool and to belittle or exclude people who play certain classes. That's what I meant.

[Craiger]

My terminology was wrong but my point was that people will use parsers to simply exclude classes they don't feel do enough, there are people who dislike SMN, DRG etc saying they don't do enough damage. This would only give these types more fuel to the fire. And yes, people abusing parsers would be using the strongest classes they can simply to justify their misuse of the tool and to belittle or exclude people who play certain classes. That's what I meant.

Majority of players doing FCoB use a parser already anyways... Won't change a thing. SMN is too weak, but DRG is balanced. Even though SMN is weak, there are plenty of SMNs that have gotten raids groups, and they are all using parsers, so it that wouldn't change.

It's important that players get at least decent DPS, because you need it in the harder raids. If you're outside of raids, who cares, but we are talking about FCoB now...

Everyone being over-geared right now, helps a lot with DPS, but you still have to do good DPS to beat the encounters.

It's not like dungeons, crystal tower etc.. you won't beat it if you don't get up to those numbers needed

[Jamein]

Parsers are one of the worst things to happen to MMOs, it's pointless because some classes will always do better in turret style fights, long fights, short fights or mobile fights. So it really doesn't help anyone. The only people who advocate parsers are people who play FotM dps classes who are strong over all or broken in fights.

I can't even begin to state how wrong you are, parsing doesn't have to be some e-peen contest, it's immensely useful in end game raids to know this sort of information.

Not to mention, when a tank forgets a cooldown/doesn't position right, you know its the tanks fault.
When a healer doesn't heal or runs out of mana or overheals, you know its a healing problem.
When a DPS isn't DPSing, its hard to pinpoint which of the 4 isn't pulling their weight or who is struggling to DPS as well as deal with mechanics sometimes. if you're smart and know the fights you'll know why certain classes like blackmages will suffer in high mobility fights, compared to melee's etc.

Not to mention most of the DPS in my group love the parse, they literally aim to beat their previous best every time we go into a turn and it's great to see them constantly improve.

[Jamein]

My terminology was wrong but my point was that people will use parsers to simply exclude classes they don't feel do enough, there are people who dislike SMN, DRG etc saying they don't do enough damage. This would only give these types more fuel to the fire. And yes, people abusing parsers would be using the strongest classes they can simply to justify their misuse of the tool and to belittle or exclude people who play certain classes. That's what I meant.

Again, so very, very wrong.

Parsers don't exclude people by class, they exclude them by the individuals skill in that class. All the melee classes are pretty much on par now DPS wise, ninja just gets taken more for TA/Goad, monk is taken more during progression due to dragon kick/mantra, dragoons are fantastic when you have it on farm as they still do amazing DPS and also boost the bards DPS so if dragon kick isn't needed a dragoon is great.

As for summoner and blackmage, before the summoner buff it was indeed a bit of an issue with DPS, but it was because the mana issues were horrific for summoner, but that's been corrected for the most part and a summoner is perfectly viable and also has the added benefit of a res.

If anyone took an average blackmage over a skilled summoner they would be absolutely retarded.

These class choices aren't due to parsing, they are because of the certain skills the classes bring to the party, as well as that players capability to maximize the DPS on that class.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

I really hope they implement this soon. It's really unfair for console players like myself to have no way of checking our DPS against others.

I guess the only plus side to this is it keeps me from wanting to play DPS classes. LOL

[Spoekes]

You must be really naive to think that claims like "Class X is stronger than Class Y" will disappear without parsers.
In fact they will still remain and without any parsing option you will never be able to say with certainty.

Parsers are the best tool to have for serious raiding, and for this particular situation they
-contribute to everyone trying to play are their optimal potential
-put pressure on the DEVs to keep classes balanced and viable.

You don't want people parsing the low level roulette and kick a underperfomring, maybe learning, DPS player.
So if the parser was in the game and not a external application, SE would have full control of it and could prevent it from being used there, or only be personal there, as OP proposed.

[Kettle]

Please put a parser right in the middle of the screen in WoD, so that some DD will realise how bad they actually are and maybe, just maybe, press some buttons.

[randysquirrel]

who would be parsing a low level roulette lmao