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  1. #91
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    Firepower Shinryu
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    30 is about what I expected. I'm glad it's not 50 because you will get too many people with the new jobs that are handed a lv 50 job with over 20 skills and 10 traits and not know what a single thing does and then never learn how to play it properly at all.

    At 30 almost every job has 13 skills and 6 traits and in almost every case they are very simple and intuitive to learn, and considering dungeons don't start getting tricky until Cutters Cry at 38 (Brayflox and Qarn are simple dungeons that require dodging mechanics more than actual job skill) you have 8 levels to familiarise yourself with the job and its skills.

    The level 1-16 grind is quite boring, but was made quick with the job quests and hunting log, will the new jobs have to complete 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 stages of the hunting log? Or will theirs just start at 30-41. I also wonder if they will include a set of 4 or 5 quests with instanced solo battles to first get you to grips with the job and give you a few extra skills at 30. I sure hope so, anything that can be done to give people some kind of direction in what to do with the job should be employed before letting them loose in the duty finder!

    Personally I enjoy going from 1-50 getting a new skill every few levels and trying it out, but I think 30 is fair considering the amount of destruction Ninja did to the starter areas and their FATE's . I remember back on early release where you was camping standard normal spawn quest mobs because so many people were all at the same stage of the game.
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    Last edited by Firepower; 04-12-2015 at 02:17 AM.

  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumpyMcduff View Post
    IT'S AN EXPANSION.

    Makes zero sense that people just getting into the game should have the full benefits of the expanded content.

    It EXPANDS UPON prior content.
    No one is saying that they need to have full benefits. But buying an expansion and having zero access to the expansion content? That is what doesn't make sense.
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  3. #93
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    No one is saying that they need to have full benefits. But buying an expansion and having zero access to the expansion content? That is what doesn't make sense.
    Hm? You have access to the content. It's not as if the content goes somewhere and you never see it. You just have to meet some really simple requirements, that's all.
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  4. #94
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    Frederick Chronos
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    Lamia
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    Goldsmith Lv 70
    This is awesome man less leveling for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecks007 View Post
    Hm? You have access to the content. It's not as if the content goes somewhere and you never see it. You just have to meet some really simple requirements, that's all.
    Awesome, more semantics. Please don't take my posts out of context if you want to respond to them.
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  6. #96
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    Whocareswhatmynameis's Avatar
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I think level 30 is fair, its not too hard getting to 30. I just hope they dont do something stupid like require u to get to level 50 first to unlock it then get knocked back down 20 levels, for ppl buying into the game after heavensward.
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  7. #97
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    what it will bring to be 1? as player that have already a 50+ you will pass from 1-15 in less of 4-5 hours at worst... what the point to start 1? without forget you have enough experience for know how work a jobs really fast since you will have experience the combat system for 50 level!

    why they did take out the class from the new jobs? less work for them ! like this every jobs will be unique! they can't take out the class system (even if i'm sure they want it now since it more a pain than a good thing) i will not be extremely surprise if we only get jobs quest pass 50, no class quest. same, i will not be surprise to see only jobs skill passed this level. it will be a great thing especially for differenciate more summoner and scholar.
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  8. #98
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    No one is saying that they need to have full benefits. But buying an expansion and having zero access to the expansion content? That is what doesn't make sense.
    What? You have an entire MMO worth of story and content to play through. Why would you even bother with the expansion if you're new to FFXIV?


    Heavensward is an expansion upon i90 average content. Starting the new classes at Lv1 would be silly, they aren't for newcomers. They're for established players. If they started them from level one it would just be a useless waste of time. You only need to learn the class, you've been playing the game for months at this point.
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    Last edited by Edellis; 04-12-2015 at 02:41 AM.

  9. #99
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    leveling experience...with marmots...really?
    1-49 is pointless, as you revise your build at 50 anyway. ppl knew how to play nin before it was even released, you don't need 1-49 to learn a class/job. if you can't learn it from 30, you won't learn it from 1-60.
    also you won't have lv1 areas clogged with 1000 DK/mach/astro. instead new players can't even play them, and there's more options for areas to lv in, at lv 30.
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  10. #100
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    Dererk Titan
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    People keep forgetting their advanced specialty jobs drk mana tank ast tactical healer probly has to combine cards mch gun toting dps that drops turrets and attaches mods to their guns.

    Why should any one new to the game as a whole be using them.

    lvl 30 is just fine you probly have to do a few job quests with them before they let you use them in DF bedsides only stupid people or trolls would jump head first into a job they don't know how to play.
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