Please start the new jobs at level 1

[Hyrist]

Well that's how I think expansions should be. It should be about going to the next level from beyond ARR. It's always about a story. I really feel that people who expect to jump right into an expansion without experiencing its core game is not experiencing the game as it should be.

They are in the mind-set that everything should be handed to them.
Casual.

Moon Kingdom is a casual FC, everyone is welcome, we are always looking for new friends to enjoy the game with. "Moon Prism Power, Make Up!" :P

Man, you must hate your own FC.

[Gilthas]

Well that's how I think expansions should be. It should be about going to the next level from beyond ARR. It's always about a story. I really feel that people who expect to jump right into an expansion without experiencing its core game is not experiencing the game as it should be.

They are in the mind-set that everything should be handed to them.
Casual.

Oh please, stop with the ridiculous rhetoric.

Jobs not being gated behind 2.0's main storyline isn't people wanting stuff handed to them.

[Mirakumi]

Man, you must hate your own FC.

Hey sometimes I like to watch my animus. ^^

[Mirakumi]

Oh please, stop with the ridiculous rhetoric.

Jobs not being gated behind 2.0's main storyline isn't people wanting stuff handed to them.

It is if it disrupts the storyline just so you can play something you want.

[Nestama]

In what way can new Jobs disrupt the main storyline? ROG/NIN certainly didn't disrupt 2.0 (the requirement was to have a level 10 Class) .-.

[Mirakumi]

In what way can new Jobs disrupt the main storyline? ROG/NIN certainly didn't disrupt 2.0 (the requirement was to have a level 10 Class) .-.

Ninja was technically Thancreds job, he's just a lazy bast- didn't want to teach anyone. lol

[Gilthas]

It is if it disrupts the storyline just so you can play something you want.

I don't remember the addition of the RotZ, ToAU and WotG jobs disrupting the storyline of FFXI.

Like Nestama also pointed out, neither did the addition of ROG/NIN to FFXIV.

Hell, we're getting an entire new race with Heavensward that people can use to start the main storyline with. That has a crap load more potential to disrupt the storyline than the new jobs will.

You're just pulling stuff out of your rear now.

[Mugiawara]

Lol, if you think I want FFXI 2.0 you're sorely mistaken. I loved playing FFXI, but I wouldn't want a repeat of all the bad stuff that the game had too.

Like someone already pointed out here, all the other jobs have classes, by this logic the new ones should have them too, but they don't.

As for why this is a big deal for some people, some of us actually like leveling new jobs from scratch. It's stupid that they take out the small grind from 1-30 that can be done in a couple of days.

hey it's their game, they can do whatever they want. we're given a middle ground here. not everyone likes a snooze fest from 1-50 fate grind. :/ calm down man.

[Mirakumi]

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The difference between NIN I think is because DOMA came to us, while for Heavensward were actually going to them to learn it.

That's just my standpoint of where SE is going with it. You can argue in circles with me all day.

[Yumi_umi]

Nah i rather have that new players will have an easier time to catch up cuz honestly it wouldn't hurt to have new ppl included in the new content/ jobs.
So what if they get to start from the get go, chances r ur better than them in everything except attitude. Lol