Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

[Velhart]

I think Nammy isn't dead because of 1 reason alone. Ilbert didn't want Raubahn to see her because it was quote on quote "Painful to see". Why didn't you just let him see his Sultana he loves so much eh? You wanted to keep him there so you could rile him up into a rage and do something he probably will regret. I think what Nammy drank was a fake death poison. If she was "really dead" Ilbert wouldn't mind letting him pass to see her, or in fact you could have at least bring her to him. I have a strong feeling they are hiding her somewhere because she isn't truly dead.

It is an interesting theory. The question is, what is the benefit to them keeping her alive? Having her dead completely takes her out of the picture without any chance of her making a come back. If there is a reason, it is one that has not been presented to us yet. It is odd though he was not allowed to see her.

[Starlord]

It is an interesting theory.

Well, it is as you say we don't know their motive if they want her alive for some reason. Perhaps, they have the antidote and after some time passes when they have a good hold over Ul'dah in terms of power, they give the antidote to her, and show everyone the Monetarist are good people and everyone will join whatever it is the Monetarist want. Not sure could be a few reasons. But if said reasons are for them to gain power over Ul'dah "which they are after power for sure), then perhaps giving her the antidote to her could possibly hand over power to the Monetarist in exchange for saving her live ( since she doesn't know they did it.)

It really depends on if what they did gives them power. ( remember, lolorito wasn't exactly happy with the outcome with the expression on his face).

[OMEGA_HACK]

I have a feeling the rest of the trailer will have Nanamo's funeral in it, which is why they didn't want to show the whole trailer when they released it.

Well I can dream at least right? (Because her death was the best thing that could happen to Raubahn's development)

[Frederick22]

I have a feeling the rest of the trailer will have Nanamo's funeral in it, which is why they didn't want to show the whole trailer when they released it.

Well I can dream at least right? (Because her death was the best thing that could happen to Raubahn's development)

Mmmm... something tells me that you might be right.

[myahele]

With enough prayers (and crystals) I'm sure those loyal to her can revive her!

[OMEGA_HACK]

With enough prayers (and crystals) I'm sure those loyal to her can revive her!

omg, how terrible would it be to have to fight her as Nanamo Primal battle (because you know all crystal wished 'people' are bad...)

[Kikoten]

While I was driving to work I started to think about what could possibly happen in Heavensward regarding the Ascians, the Scions (if they're still around), and Zodiark. I love to speculate, and my metaphor started to itch, so I spent about 15 - 20 minutes coming up with this:

My quill to the page
On the morning's bell,
An uncertain future
I will foretell.

'Tis naught but speculation,
A dream had by me;
A silhouetted vision
Of what could be.

Corruption befalls
Our closest friends dear,
A sinister light
Is all that shines here.

Hydaelin is gone and
We all break and weep,
We do battle and fight
For all our souls to keep.

Zodiark reigns within
The bodies of the five,
Only by the Hero's hand
Can they perish or survive!

It'd be a bittersweet chain of events, I think.

[Kallera]

omg, how terrible would it be to have to fight her as Nanamo Primal battle (because you know all crystal wished 'people' are bad...)

Lalafell primal, :O /panic . Or more Puppet Nanamo, even more freaky as a undead lich.

[myahele]

Lalafell primal, :O /panic . Or more Puppet Nanamo, even more freaky as a undead lich.

Was just a preview!

[JonBigwood]

More about things that happen in the last part of 2.55

We don't know for sure what happened with Nanamo. The Monetarists wouldn't want Nanamo to be able to abdicate the power and let another type of government not controlled by them be established, so there's the reason for her being poisoned before she does it.

Letting her be alive but controlled might be useful for Lolorito and company to keep things under control faking the Sultana is on their side. It's a bit weird Nanamo had a plan to leave the power without a plan of having established how things would go later, and without at least some key people knowing the plan and having it all established. Foreign powers and the Warrior of Light are not the ones to make that plan happen. Why didn't she have a well established plan of transition to a new order? (Which would mean at least some powerful people inside Ul Dah know of her plan.)


I have watched the cutscenes again and think probably Nanamo is dead, but everything is open yet. I think most probably Yda and Papalimo are alive but captured. Supposedly Yshtola and Thancred were going to die with the tunnel falling over them but it is not completely sure. Why Minfilia goes back is still a mystery. We are supposed to think she goes back to sacrifice herself so that the Warrior of Light can escape and there is a light of hope since he is alive, but it's also open (why should she go back just to be killed?), it might be she goes back to save the others. The content of the message she received from Hyadelin is a mystery now.

I also saw Urianger's scene again and it is meant for us to think he is betraying us, or at least has his own agenda. But it is open to make it finally be otherwise.

Characters to be there for sure: Tataru (maybe evil?) and Urianger (maybe a traitor?), Alphinaud and Alisaie, Cid (a real rock always there for us), Pippin, the new force on our side in Ul Dah. And Lord Manderville.

The Ascians seem to have a lot of power in Ishgard's highest instances. Mirgardsorm warns we will only find ugly nasty things there (probably biased opinion, really.) We don't seem to have a lot of friends in Ishgard for now, but one of the big houses is on our side at least.

We have still a big character in Ul Dah that has not appeared: Lord Manderville. He is member of the Syndicate, powerful, and on our side, and should have been informed of Nanamo's plan and been part of it, probably. And he is not supposedly dead nor in prison. I think he will be part of the solution to Ul Dah's political situation.

If things in 3.0 are going to happen mainly in Ishgard, I wonder if Ul Dah matters will be left on standby until a future that is not near for us, players in real world. I hope not : )