Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

**Kikoten** · 04-11-2015 06:30 AM

While I was driving to work I started to think about what could possibly happen in Heavensward regarding the Ascians, the Scions (if they're still around), and Zodiark. I love to speculate, and my metaphor started to itch, so I spent about 15 - 20 minutes coming up with this:

My quill to the page
On the morning's bell,
An uncertain future
I will foretell.

'Tis naught but speculation,
A dream had by me;
A silhouetted vision
Of what could be.

Corruption befalls
Our closest friends dear,
A sinister light
Is all that shines here.

Hydaelin is gone and
We all break and weep,
We do battle and fight
For all our souls to keep.

Zodiark reigns within
The bodies of the five,
Only by the Hero's hand
Can they perish or survive!

It'd be a bittersweet chain of events, I think.

**Kallera** · 04-11-2015 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

omg, how terrible would it be to have to fight her as Nanamo Primal battle (because you know all crystal wished 'people' are bad...)

Lalafell primal, :O /panic . Or more Puppet Nanamo, even more freaky as a undead lich.

**myahele** · 04-11-2015 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kallera

Lalafell primal, :O /panic . Or more Puppet Nanamo, even more freaky as a undead lich.

Was just a preview!

**JonBigwood** · 04-12-2015 12:28 AM

More about things that happen in the last part of 2.55

We don't know for sure what happened with Nanamo. The Monetarists wouldn't want Nanamo to be able to abdicate the power and let another type of government not controlled by them be established, so there's the reason for her being poisoned before she does it.

Letting her be alive but controlled might be useful for Lolorito and company to keep things under control faking the Sultana is on their side. It's a bit weird Nanamo had a plan to leave the power without a plan of having established how things would go later, and without at least some key people knowing the plan and having it all established. Foreign powers and the Warrior of Light are not the ones to make that plan happen. Why didn't she have a well established plan of transition to a new order? (Which would mean at least some powerful people inside Ul Dah know of her plan.)

I have watched the cutscenes again and think probably Nanamo is dead, but everything is open yet. I think most probably Yda and Papalimo are alive but captured. Supposedly Yshtola and Thancred were going to die with the tunnel falling over them but it is not completely sure. Why Minfilia goes back is still a mystery. We are supposed to think she goes back to sacrifice herself so that the Warrior of Light can escape and there is a light of hope since he is alive, but it's also open (why should she go back just to be killed?), it might be she goes back to save the others. The content of the message she received from Hyadelin is a mystery now.

I also saw Urianger's scene again and it is meant for us to think he is betraying us, or at least has his own agenda. But it is open to make it finally be otherwise.

Characters to be there for sure: Tataru (maybe evil?) and Urianger (maybe a traitor?), Alphinaud and Alisaie, Cid (a real rock always there for us), Pippin, the new force on our side in Ul Dah. And Lord Manderville.

The Ascians seem to have a lot of power in Ishgard's highest instances. Mirgardsorm warns we will only find ugly nasty things there (probably biased opinion, really.) We don't seem to have a lot of friends in Ishgard for now, but one of the big houses is on our side at least.

We have still a big character in Ul Dah that has not appeared: Lord Manderville. He is member of the Syndicate, powerful, and on our side, and should have been informed of Nanamo's plan and been part of it, probably. And he is not supposedly dead nor in prison. I think he will be part of the solution to Ul Dah's political situation.

If things in 3.0 are going to happen mainly in Ishgard, I wonder if Ul Dah matters will be left on standby until a future that is not near for us, players in real world. I hope not : )

**Fenral** · 04-12-2015 12:35 AM

"Lord Manderville" is Godbert, Hildibrand's dad, not some other unrevealed character. He has shown up in a Main Scenario cutscene before, but he can't use his superpowers in situations where he has to stay clothed.

Just one scene in the Ul'dah arc of Heavensward with a fully in-character, out-of-clothes Godbert is all I ask.

**JonBigwood** · 04-12-2015 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Fenral

"Lord Manderville" is Godbert, Hildibrand's dad, not some other unrevealed character.

I of course know who he is.

But he has not appeared in any of the last cutscenes, and being an important person in Ul Dah that is strange. I think likely he has some important part on the story to come.

**Fenral** · 04-12-2015 02:59 AM

I think Godbert is the only remaining Syndicate member on our side, so it wouldn't be strange if at some point we end up working to get his official support.

Now that the full Heavensward opening is out, it's pretty safe to say that the Ul'dah story won't be put off until 3.X. I'm fully expecting the the Dragonsong War, the Ul'dahan revolution, the new Garlean Emperor, and whatever nonsense the Ascians are up to will all converge in a final showdown on the Floating Continent.

**MaethusXion** · 04-12-2015 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by Fenral

I think Godbert is the only remaining Syndicate member on our side, so it wouldn't be strange if at some point we end up working to get his official support.

Now that the full Heavensward opening is out, it's pretty safe to say that the Ul'dah story won't be put off until 3.X. I'm fully expecting the the Dragonsong War, the Ul'dahan revolution, the new Garlean Emperor, and whatever nonsense the Ascians are up to will all converge in a final showdown on the Floating Continent.

The Ul'dah stuff'll hopefully be started by 3.1 at the latest, if not something like 3.05, I bet a lot of people are itching to destroy the Syndicate

**Dree-Elle** · 04-12-2015 09:54 PM

Keeping it brief: I've always been of the mind that a fade to white simply means a return to the Lifestream (that's still a thing, isn't it?), and a fade to black being unconsciousness.

If the Sultana and the Scions are suddenly alive and well, I would see that as simply bad writing, and the worst kind of deus-ex-style garbage. This isn't Homestuck, you know.

**Belhi** · 04-12-2015 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dree-Elle

Keeping it brief: I've always been of the mind that a fade to white simply means a return to the Lifestream (that's still a thing, isn't it?), and a fade to black being unconsciousness.

If the Sultana and the Scions are suddenly alive and well, I would see that as simply bad writing, and the worst kind of deus-ex-style garbage. This isn't Homestuck, you know.

I disagree. The fading thing really means nothing and the lack of clarity on survival actually strengthens, not weakens the story. We don't know who has lived and that creates suspense and uncertainty.

Regardless of if they have lived or died, we are scattered, discredited, hunted and betrayed. Them being alive doesn't diminish that. Particularly if they are held by Lolorito.

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