Why I have no interest in Coils more specifically, T9.

[SirTaint]

T9 is harder then anything in FCoB.

T9 is 4 different fights in one. Almost nothing carries over from one phase to the next.
Phase1 - beak, chariot, dives, meteors
Phase2 - Golems and more meteors
Phase3- Towers plus ghost
Phase4 - Claws, Elementals, Chariot, Dive Bombs

T12
Phase 1 Phoenix plus Black/White Fire
Phase 2 Phoenix plus Brand/Red/Blue Fire
Phase 3 Bennu farm
Phase 4 Phoenix plus Brand,fountains,pinions

Phoneix moves never really change so its 2-4 people doing mechanics while 4-6 just fight. With current gear levels the learning curve is fairly low and is more of a mechanics check like T8.

T13
Phase 1 - Flatten,Megaflare,Earthshakers
Phase 2 - Flatten,Megaflare,Rage (Orbs)
Phase 3 - Adds plus easy divebombs
Phase 4 - Repeat phase 1 plus Twisters

Very low learning curve with mechanics but requires min/maxing healing,DPS and tank rotations. Its more of a "can you play well" check then anything else.

[Ayrie]

Stuff

You forgot the brands, revelations, and bennu spawns in phase 1 and 2. Not unique to those phases, but definitely will end your day quickly.

Is Phoenix overall as hard as Turn 9? Debatable, I think they are very close in difficulty. Two very different fights.

Point is: beating Nael is not some magical door to easy fights and free loot. That attitude will get you wiped over and over, quick.

[SirTaint]

You forgot the brands, revelations, and bennu spawns in phase 1 and 2. Not unique to those phases, but definitely will end your day quickly.

Is Phoenix overall as hard as Turn 9? Debatable, I think they are very close in difficulty. Two very different fights.

Point is: beating Nael is not some magical door to easy fights and free loot. That attitude will get you wiped over and over, quick.

Sorry I only posted the new mechanics. Revelation is the tank killer, if you got past T5 you know how to handle it. Beak+Blight and Claws are both more difficult.

My point was T9 there was a lot more to learn and almost every mechanic was an 8 man mechanic. Brand? 2 people. red/blue fire 2 people. Black/white 3 people. Fountains 3-4 people. That's it.

Some of the thoughts are skewed because T9 can now be done 20 ilvls higher (it was first done at i90 so 40 ilvls higher) with a 20% echo.

Any group that was farming T9 at i110 is definitely finding FCoB easy at i130.