Why I have no interest in Coils more specifically, T9.

[Lilyarel]

Boss fights are typically a test of your reflexes. A test of how fast you can avoid a bosses attack. While it may not kill you, it will leave you in a world of hurt. Its a battle of avoidng

Coil doesnt do those fights very well I feel. Youre not a warrior fighting monster, youre a student studying for a test. Youre not avoiding their attacks with your reflexes. Youre a pencil pusher following a pattern. The majority of the fight is just "drop rocks here then she'll do this after that drop more rocks here after she does this then repeat." Thats not my idea of fun or challenging. I feel that no matter how hard a boss is, you should be able to defeat it on your first blind run through skill alone. T9 doesnt allow that. If you go in blind, all the meteor mechanics will likely wipe everyone until you eventually know what to do. And eve if you do go in blind, youll still need to memorize a pattern. So again, the boss is just following directions. Its like your boss is nagging at you.

Before anyone says "You cant take a challenge" Allow me to say I do enjoy a challenge. But T9 doesnt offer an interesting or engaging challenge. If I wanted to play a memory game, I'd go buy a puzzle game. I dont feel triumphant when I beat a boss that follows a pattern. I just feel like I followed it long enough until it finally flops over.

[Darra]

Okay! Then don't do them.

[aerolol]

Okay!

Next!

[monochromicorn]

Welcome to any difficult content. It's like titan, know when the hit is supposed to come, and prepare for it accordingly.

[Magis]

Yes? As well a test of group coordination, knowing the strategy, and doing the most out of your abilities. T9 for example: If tanks are not keeping hate on golems, they touch and you die. If healers aren't preparing for Raven's Beak, tank may die. If DPS is lacking, you are going to end up with fast meteors while killing the golems and other issues.

Dodging has a big part, but it's not the biggest. Knowing your surroundings and working together is.

Is this a troll post?

[Lilyarel]

Yes? As well a test of group coordination, knowing the strategy, and doing the most out of your abilities. T9 for example: If tanks are not keeping hate on golems, they touch and you die. If healers aren't preparing for Raven's Beak, tank may die. If DPS is lacking, you are going to end up with fast meteors while killing the golems and other issues.

Dodging has a big part, but it's not the biggest. Knowing your surroundings and working together is.

Is this a troll post?

Read it again. Why even have a character limit if you can just bypass it by editing your post -.-

[Anubis_Nephthys]

I feel that no matter how hard a boss is, you should be able to defeat it on your first blind run through skill alone.

Yup, this is a troll post.
It was hidden in there.

[Magis]

Read it again. Why even have a character limit if you can just bypass it by editing your post -.-

Ah, sorry about that. I do agree that FFXIV has an issue of heavily relying on instakill mechanics from the boss instead of relying on the players to beat it with their job's abilities alone. The issue is due to the simplicity of the jobs, they've been filtered down to their core of:

Tank the boss
DPS the boss
Heal everyone

Most (all?) of the few debuffs/enfeebles we have are resisted, there are no strategies based on buffing/debuffing, or using certain spells, etc... so where does SE turn? Give these abilities to the boss or use the position of the player. The content is still hard, it's just built in a different way. In the end, players are still going to do the above 3 things on every boss while doing some dance. Now, I will say I enjoyed the hell out of T9, but making the battle system more interesting outside of positional stuff would be nice.

Also, this topic has been discussed to death before in the early days when Titan was endgame... I'll see if I can find the interesting post around that time.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You can do t9 without memorizing it, all you need is to know how the mechanics work. Take titan for instance, its a set pattern, but i never memorized it, i just knew how to act for each mechanic. its not hard... dodge this, pop a cd for that, move here, kill that.

[monochromicorn]

You can do t9 without memorizing it, all you need is to know how the mechanics work. Take titan for instance, its a set pattern, but i never memorized it, i just knew how to act for each mechanic. its not hard... dodge this, pop a cd for that, move here, kill that.

This exactly. In titan, all I know is that when he turns to mark people for jails, that's when I throw my cover on mt. Completely negate the tank swap and take the mountain buster and the debuff. Just in case someone says something, I have solo-tanked titan before, although it's not free.