Failing on Calibrated Rose Gold Cog HQ

[GenJoe]

This is not true. I got my first artisan tool with only wvr at 50, no other level 50 cross class skills, and only melds on the weaver crafted pieces. You can bet I had to use a dynamic crafting approach as I was stuck with skills like SH 1, Ing 1, and an advanced touch finisher. This experience later allowed me to get through the 3* learning curve very quickly (incidentally, I got my first 2nd master book just 2 days after I finally got arm to 50 for p by p).

Right.. So you had to learn by doing, which is what most crafters at 4 stars right now have done..
A common trait I see among people who complain about the difficulty of crafting is that they think it's either luck or gear based.. But we all know it isn't.

At the end of the day, we're all wearing the same gear, 472 craft 426 control 395 CP with food, give or take a few points on Control and CP with melds but that's negligible.
Does everybody else but me have incredible good luck? Hardly doubt it.
So what is it? ROTATION!
That's the only difference between crafters when it comes down to it, but some people just complain and refuse to see that they might have room to improve or just expect to be spoon fed some macros. How can we help with that kind of attitude? We can't.

For me, honestly, I don't care where he got the money to buy his gear, be it from spiritbonding, a friend, RMT, or whatever. Doesn't concern me at all. But I do agree with Zephyr's sentiment that I find it hard to sympathize with someone just expecting to be spoon fed the answers because well, crafting simply can't be spoon fed.. It took me about 2 hours of closely watching and giving advice to a friend craft in order to help him get through the artisan token crafting.. But at the end of the day, it's up to him to take in the general concept and take it further.. He completed his first manual II tokens 2 days after that and got 5 crafts to 4 stars in about a week since he first got his artisan tools.



Do I think Shavnhere can do the same? By reading online? I don't think so, my only suggestion would be to grab a bunch of cheap 3 star mats and start crafting them. The kind that doesn't really matter if it's nq or hq, still salvageable (terminus putty comes to mind). Challenge himself so he can learn from experience (Experience is really the only thing he's lacking). You learn by doing, not watching other people do it.
Best thing you can do is find something that's less costly to nq and practice with it. The artisan tokens would've been good practice but I think he skipped right over that by just buying his gear. So he never got to practice.

I'm not sure how helpful it will be, but here's my rotation

Yo if you're struggling and asking for a rotation to solve the issue, I think you're looking at it wrong.

That's just the general consensus and I share the sentiment.
I'm not trying to be mean, but that's just how it is when it comes to end-game crafting.. Especially manual II tokens.

A melded AF set and a rng free rotation is all that is required. I know this for a fact because I did exactly that with my other classes.

AF gear is cheap and easily obtainable (I got my first set by farming shards and selling low level items, which can be crafted by spamming SH, GS, AT). In any case, I think it's inappropriate to insinuate that someone is participating in RMT when players can make millions by spirit bonding or even fishing.

I think he's talking about the manual II tokens