Healer Buffs

[Mirakumi]

Just cast it on them while they run in. Impatience on them.
Later in raids, you can expect green means go. Adol.
So rejoice. Soon, soon.

[dekal]

I cast on whoever don't move or get it. I don't Eben bother to buff them even if they ask until we get to fight a boss. They didn't want to wait I don't want to buff for something they don't need ( according to them)

[Mugiawara]

You remind me of a tank in Ifrit nm when I used roulette to lvl up my MNK. He must ran out while one of the members was still in cs or loading (I was watching party list as my healer's habit) and when suddenly got hit by AoE I was like, "wut ?! aren't we still casting Protect? O_o" He must have soloed all the way up to 20 because he was pulling Ifrit EVERYWHERE and running through the whole arena. You can imagine what a disaster that means to a MNK...

Actually! I forgot a funny story. Once in CC I was not ready yet, no one was protect or anything and the tank had to go fast because he had literally ran for his life into the mobs as SOON as the little circle thing was removed.
So I stood there...boy I was dying because I had Eos out, he ran allll the way back to me and was lucky Eos had saved him a bit before I started to heal...I said "Please wait okay? Let's buff up first"
He said "Okay, I'm sorry. "
-_- I said "It's okay." and he left...really? I forgot to mention since this was about 1 and a half years ago. I kinda felt bad but come on man lol.

[Snowaeth]

You can cast protect mid fight... at best it would lower your dps by a a cast or two, at worst it will make you do something while waiting semi afk for the next moment to heal.

As for Trials where people are rushing, it's farm content, they need to do many, many, many runs for whatever they'r doing so all the time they can win adds up. Just expect a rush if you see stuff like Garuda HM come out of your roulette and swiftcast protect or if you know how to time it, pre-cast protect and SC the aoe stoneskin.

[Selli]

People have never waited for buffs. I remember the days when my WHM had to cast stoneskin one person at a time and if I didn't buff them before things died, they'd run off without it.

It really peeves me when you'd get stoneskin/adlo on the tank as they pull and then you have instant hate and die. Then they proceed to chew you out because they couldn't wait half a second for the freaken buff you were already casting while they were running.

[SarcasmMisser]

I hardly see how every bit of mitigation you can possibly pre-apply is going to add up to 30 seconds worth of dps from everyone else in the group.

[Selli]

I hardly see how every bit of mitigation you can possibly pre-apply is going to add up to 30 seconds worth of dps from everyone else in the group.

Because when the tank is properly buffed that gives the healer more time to DPS. If the tank is losing HP as soon as he's done pulling and the healer needs to spam heal him are they going to have time to DPS? No. Sure, in theory the WHM can use Holy 3 times to stunlock so the tank doesn't take damage for a few seconds. But who's healing them? No one. And if you have an undergeared tank or a tank who doesn't pop buffs then there is a risk of them dying or using a powerful resource like Benediction. It's much safer and easier if the tank is buffed before they pull. if they're not fully buffed, then healer might not bother to DPS at all and a healer's DPS is worth a lot more than the few seconds it takes to buff between pulls.

[SarcasmMisser]

Quantify it, how much damage are the others doing in that 30 seconds they had to stand around for a healer that takes that long to buff? How much damage are the healers doing? It's just a useless discussion unless you can prove it.

[Reves]

you don't even need protect or ss to clear a dungeon.

[AdventZero]

As a tank I always wait. Once had a WHM get mad at me for not pulling right away, said he was going to buff as I was tanking the first pull of mobs. Was also in a group once in ST were all 3 of us tanks were watching each other and the group as a whole to keep things neat clean and in order. No hate issues no adds left unchecked, we even did a ready check before pulling. On the first boss a bard ran in and started kiting the boss before ready check was done. On the second boss he did it again and after we got the boss back from him everyone started yelling at us, calling us names and saying we were lazy and slow tanks. On the 3rd boss we started a ready check, saw the bard moving in and just ran in anyway, people were still talking down to us. 4th boss we didn't wait at all just ran in and hit it, locked 3-4 people out of the fight one of which was new. Everyone was happy then.

So don't be to quick to blame tanks and tanks alone for this, healers and dps are at fault too sometimes.