The problem with Summoners

[Craiger]

It's not just the server as I df almost everything. I seen 4 in WoD and normally 1-2 a day. SMN offers some things BLM can't. In places like WoD they can actually have a more significant impact when enemies are spread out and a BLM can't AoE. Cerberus? They can DoT him up and then dot/bane the flowers. Stomach they can dps all of the Stomach parts at the same time.

He meant that there are very few SMNs doing endgame raiding (Final Coil)... Maybe you could find some more now, because it's doesn't really matter now that everyone has the best gear, but you'll still barely see anyone.

SMN is good in WoD for example like you said, but that really doesn't matter. Even if a job isn't doing good in WoD, you'll beat it easily, so it doesn't make a difference.

[Wintersandman]

Snip.

Didn't state and most people running coil are running statics so of course they would run into less. But to say that they are going extinct is misleading when in reality they aren't. If they are so horrible as everyone states why would anyone even bother in WoD, dungeons etc.? The glimmer of hope that SE will retune the class? Wait or is it the class is actually enjoyable to play?

[Havenae]

Didn't state and most people running coil are running statics so of course they would run into less. But to say that they are going extinct is misleading when in reality they aren't. If they are so horrible as everyone states why would anyone even bother in WoD, dungeons etc.? The glimmer of hope that SE will retune the class? Wait or is it the class is actually enjoyable to play?

Repeated forum posts since launch expounding upon the same principle issues by a multitude of people would show the last statement to not be the case.

But to answer your question, I still play my summoner in hope that yes someday SE will get around to actually finishing the job, because to be quite honest for the most part thats what the job feels like. As if it were rushed out to round off the arcanist class and make good on their promise that summoner would accompany 2.0's launch. Summoner most of the time for me feels like an afterthought and to be honest, the job deserves a lot more than that. WE deserve a lot more than that.

As for the rarity of the job. I've jumped servers 4 times. The frequency that I actually see another summoner is very low in comparison to seeing pretty much any other dps class/job. And that frequency is NOTHING compared to what it used to be. thats not even considering how rare of an occurrence it is that I actually see a summoner in the duty finder. If we could see some stats on things like most and least played classes/jobs most played races, ect.. I would bet you my children that Summoner would be at or one spot from the bottom of that list.

Visually the job is boring. Playwise it is tedious and unimagined at best and does nothing to connect the concept of FINAL FANTASY SUMMONER to itself.

They could have named this job Necromancer, gave us skeleton and zombie pets and it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference other than actually making more sense considering the spell repetiore that we have. We deal exclusively in poison and disease, yet we have element based pets. Who ever at SE that thought this made any sort of sense was more dense than Hildibrand could ever be.

[Dyvid]

Repeated forum posts since launch expounding upon the same principle issues by a multitude of people would show the last statement to not be the case.

But to answer your question, I still play my summoner in hope that yes someday SE will get around to actually finishing the job, because to be quite honest for the most part thats what the job feels like. As if it were rushed out to round off the arcanist class and make good on their promise that summoner would accompany 2.0's launch. Summoner most of the time for me feels like an afterthought and to be honest, the job deserves a lot more than that. WE deserve a lot more than that..

Summoner is what it is and if you don't have fun playing it now you're not going to have playing in Heavensward no matter what they change.