Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

[EdwinLi]

Well saw most of what happened miles away but meh it is to be expect.

Though the part that got me the most and what I did not expect was the Urianger moment. What the seven heck is going on with Urianger's side of the story!

[myahele]

could it be possible that Tatatu could be possessed by an Ascien?

Its been a while, but wasn't it due to Thancred overexcerting himself that allowed him to become possessed?

Tataru has been doing her best to be as useful to the scions as possible: taking up occupations to get more gil....to joining a DoW guild

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Ehhh I don't think Square would use the same plot element twice.

[MaethusXion]

Story done, oh man.

Yugiri's Face in spoiler.

I hope I'm not the only one that ended up disappointed in her reveal. "Oh, I lost my mask defending Tataru." Come on, SE, you could've done a LOT better than that!

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have one of the two cute Lalas around still, but... seriously... she just walks out of the room without any discussion on her features beyond losing her mask...

Warrior of Light's Things to do for heavensward list

1) Fight dragons
2) Win and Befriend Dragons
3) Stop Dragons and Ishgard fighting.
4) Find missing friends
5) Bring said dragon friends to ul'dah with many many large pikes.
6) Feed said dragons evil monetarist lalafells on said pikes over very large bonfire
7) ???
8) PROFIT!!!! :3

This. So. Much. Seriously... Lolorito and Ilberd either need to be slaughtered by Raubahn or us. Hey, maybe we can take control of the Omega Weapon and devour them both as if they were primals!

Question for the devs:

How are you going to manage Culinarian quest line now that

Nanamo is dead and Lolorito is an antagonist?

People keep asking this... CUL50 quest was a 2.0 quest. IE, "true timeline" it happens LONG before Nanamo's assassination. Yes, you can do things out of order, but the real timeline that the Devs are going off of is that you've done all the content(except maybe Relic/Zodiac) during that patch's cycle.

[Balipu]

... err... I'm having trouble formatting this as a spoiler, so... beware reading below.

Urianger is an fun one to speculate about.
Urianger is in the Waking Sands.
Alisaie is in the Waking Sands.
Tataru is still in contact with Urianger
I'm just not ready to believe that she, or Urianger, are bad yet.

Yes, mister holy wrangler (as Hildibrand used to call him) is probably the most interesting character in the game right now. I also don't believe that SE pulled out the "secretly and Ascian" card again. That being said it is kinda fishy. How did he know how to contact Elidibus? How did he even see Elidibus? Like I mentioned in my neat little wall of text, only those with the echo can see Elidibus. This was made clear during his introduction. Urianger is hiding quite a lot.

Why do people think Tataru is evil?

I don't get it either. But since we don't realise how many plotholes there are in the story it's probably our fault /sarcasm

[TheUltimate3]

Finished the patch storyline last night.

Patch 2.55's new unofficial title to me is "Ish Going South Real Quick".

I fought monsters, demons, gods, and everything in between. I helped kill something that by rights is unkillable and saw some things that would make other men wet themselves in pure horror.

So how in the seven hells did things in Ul'dah go so south so badly? The Scions are effectively dead, we're running to Ishgard with our tails between our legs because we are criminals in Eorzea, Is there anyone anyone we can actually trust in friggin Eorzea? I was quite pleased that we still had Alphinaud, Tataru, Yugiri, Cid & co on our side, but then Urianger is seen with Ascians so now I'm full of wtf.

[Aeliott]

To everyone suspicious of Tataru...I'm pretty sure it's just that the story writers went extreeeeemely overboard on the foreshadowing. Even before this patch it was so glaringly obvious that we'd be betrayed in some way by the Crystal Braves. So obvious that many were hoping it was a red herring. If you didn't have a bad feeling by the time of the banquet invitation then I don't know what to say :P And by the time we get to the scene with Tataru on the beach we've been exposed to so much foreshadowing that her very blunt mention of how it feels like there's some finality or whatever is just one nudge and wink too far for even the most half-awake audience.

[Theonekitten]

Was I the only person disappointed with the lack of the player characters agency within these cut scenes?

Then were told to run, ok, then we keep running as the Scion's do their last stands. It honestly just made me feel the Player Character was someone weak and needed to be protected. Instead of the fabled Warrior of Light. I just slayed a dragon, how much are these guards being paid to fight me? I feel it just leaves several mixed messages in terms of the character's status in the world.

I was thinking something similar but then remembered...we are no longer the warrior of light. Remember that was taken from us by Midgardsormr. Hydaelen no longer speaks to us, we are now without our light. Maybe that is why we are now treated as nothing more than mere adventurers versus the powerful warriors of light we were once known as. I can't wait to see how this all plays out and if we will see our scion friends again. They appear to have gone into the white light like Louisoix. Maybe they were ported like we were so long ago and maybe we'll meet them again in Ishgard.

[AnnaMolly]

How did he even see Elidibus? Like I mentioned in my neat little wall of text, only those with the echo can see Elidibus. This was made clear during his introduction.

I think Ascians can make themselves visible. You're also forgetting that Elidibus was "sighted" in Vesper Bay after leaving the Waking Sands, and also Moenbryda was able to see Nabrioles or whatever his name was. I think other Scions were there and saw him too. The player and Minfilia are the only mortal characters who have the Echo. It's kinda hinted at at the end of 2.4 that the Ascians' immortality and power lies within the Echo. At least, that's what I took from it.

EDIT: Another thing to point out about my Ascian Echo theory is that Nabrioles states that Lahabrea and Elidibus are from our plane of existence. It's likely they used to be people who had the Echo and "awakened" to it's full power. What I'm saying is, If you have the Echo, you can potentially become Ascian, think of it like the Force from Star Wars; a Jedi can turn to the Dark Side all the same.

[Wildsprite]

Urianger is an fun one to speculate about. I don't think he's turned on the Scions. A few clues were dropped that I'm hoping I'm purring together correctly:
Urianger is in the Waking Sands. If you go back and talk to him, he says "Never again will our brethren suffer at the hands of our enemies - this I swore to myself after the Garlean raid."
Alisaie is in the Waking Sands.
Alisaie knows the secrets found in the Coil, including that of Phoenix. I have a feeling she shared that secret with Urianger, who used that primal, to spirit the rest of the Scions out of Ul'Dah, when each was about to meet certain death.
She got word of the unrest/plotting in Ul'Dah and made sure her brother, and maybe the other Scions, had a way out of the city.
Tataru is still in contact with Urianger - I'm wondering if she knew something was up, hence her suspicious behavior and searching for good luck amulets.
I'm just not ready to believe that she, or Urianger, are bad yet.

Yes, mister holy wrangler (as Hildibrand used to call him) is probably the most interesting character in the game right now. I also don't believe that SE pulled out the "secretly and Ascian" card again. That being said it is kinda fishy. How did he know how to contact Elidibus? How did he even see Elidibus? Like I mentioned in my neat little wall of text, only those with the echo can see Elidibus. This was made clear during his introduction. Urianger is hiding quite a lot.

this is ofcourse speculation from me so take it with a grain of salt so to speak but, from the moment we meet Elidibus I get this feeling he unlike the other Asciens doesn't have it out for us. so my take is that he initiated talks with Urianger and is playing the other Asciens. maybe I'm wrong but I get this feeling Elidibus is a double agent and is on our side..