Thread: Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

Originally Posted by Lilyarel

Has anyone thought about how Gaius took over Ala Mhigo? He caused a civil uprising much like whats happening in Ul'Dah. Perhaps the new Emperor is taking notes from Gaius before his death.

Interesting thought, and it's a possibility that this is the Empire causing an uprising so it can expand its territory even further into Eorzea. Think about it, the Crystal Braves are in every city state, and the Syndicate just used them and the Brass Blades to take control of Ul'dah. It's not crazy to think that the Empire is behind this, which may also explain why the other 2 city-state leaders made a hasty retreat during the ending, they realized that things were about to go down, and they need to be back home to prepare for a possible betrayal from the Crystal Braves in Limsa and Gridania.

It's rather nice that they added more story text to npc's around Ul'dah. Speaking to Rand, just outside the GC area. As well as Mimishu at the gate of the Sultana. Apparently not all the Brass Blades are in on it. Mimishu says he was informed that the Sultana was sick, and hopes for her recovery. And Rand mentions receiving "strange orders of late" to "Report any sightings of the Scions".

Even the Thaumaturge guild leader seems to be getting in on it. Saying "I see you now flirt with darkness of an entirely different nature. Though my expertise centers upon the arcane, this mundane manipulation is naught to be scoffed at. Tread with care, Harley..." Not sure if he said that before, but it certainly fits. Talk to all the npc's!

I'm not going to read this many responses, so I don't know if any of this has been said or not. Just wanted to get my thoughts down, because in the first 80 or so posts there seems to be some speculation I don't quite agree with involving the Scions.

I think the story was done pretty well, but I am really upset with the fact that this MSQ left us with even more cliffhangers then plot points it wrapped up. I am also very disappointed in the fact of the way it portrays the PC. I mean, I am farming Bahamut.... I was literally shouting at my screen when I was watching what was going on. I understand why we need to be a little helpless, but the fact it portrayed the PC as a coward was unsettling for me. None of those Scions would have been able to stop me from helping them. Papalymo can close that gate all he wants I can shoot arrows through the openings in it

Anyway, I watched these cutscenes with a friend of mine and she was under the impression that the Scions were dead. I don't think any of them are. Yda does Final Heaven on the "seemingly" final wave of Blades in their hallway, which looks like it encompasses them all (even though we know this to be a single target move, it doesn't make sense in that situation for her to perform that if it didn't dispatch them all). Unless this move has some new twist where it damages the user, I think they should be fine.

The only Scions I can feel maybe were killed was Y'shtola and Thancred, only because of their ending dialogue. But....I just don't think so. We beat the crap out of Thancred's body at the end of Praetorium and he is fine. That arrow won't kill him. Y'shtola casting Holy in the tunnel, and the dialogue about "bringing it all down" and "being entombed with Thancred for eternity" seemed forced and unrealistic. But the main reason I don't think they are dead, is because (I thought) clearly Minfilia went back to save them. She was briefly contacted by Hydaleyn, and then was gung-ho about going back. I thought it was interesting that was the first time we have even seen an interaction with Her in a while, and the sudden change in Minfilia's attitude after the brief encounter ended.

The scenes with Raubahn gave me such feels. He was the reason I joined Immortal Flames GC when I started this game, because his speech was truly invigorating. I would fight and die beside that man in battle, and when he enrages on Teledji I got instant goosebumps (even if the animations/expressions were a bit cheesy). When his arm was taken in battle, my jaw dropped. When Ilberd spoke to him as if he was nothing, I was FUMING at the screen because I WAS STANDING RIGHT THERE!!! I wanted to help. To see him in jail at the end, the only thing I wanted to do is start a coux in Ul'dah immediately and break him out.

3.0 confirmed = Lalafells are all evil ;-;

The cliffhangers are real. Even if I don't fully agree with some of the portrayals and the delivery of the story, I did thoroughly enjoy it. Anything that invokes so much thought and speculation can't be considered bad imo. I just wish I didn't have to wait almost 3 months for any type of resolution.

I have this very faint belief that Nanamo is still alive. They way the Lady said all pieces are in place, leads me to believe there something really going down in Ul'Dah.

Man, reading all this kind of makes me a bit worried that the events of this patch might just be kind of a big joke.

What I'm saying is, keep the scions dead! :/ If they get brought back out of the blue for 'reasons' it's just gonna feel cheap and really annoying. Besides, the scions kinda suck anyways character wise. The merchant that picks you up at the end has more personality than all of the scions combined.

Originally Posted by Longelis

Man, reading all this kind of makes me a bit worried that the events of this patch might just be kind of a big joke.

What I'm saying is, keep the scions dead! :/ If they get brought back out of the blue for 'reasons' it's just gonna feel cheap and really annoying. Besides, the scions kinda suck anyways character wise. The merchant that picks you up at the end has more personality than all of the scions combined.

None of that is confirmed and most likely with reason.

Originally Posted by Teryaani

This thread needs some crackpot conspiracy theories.

Thancred took an "arrow to the knee" and Yshtola lamented spending eternity with him followed by apologizing to loved ones. Do I hear wedding bells?! A litter of kitten ninjas perhaps?

and for what I really think

I honestly hope that some of the scions stay gone permanently. What good is the comic-book death scene? Their sacrifice is meaningless if they just come back.

One of the frustrating things for me was the scene where Ilberd and Raubahn fight. The scions and your character are right there and after he frees you there was no reason not to help take Ilberd down. No matter how juiced up Ilberd is, we wouldn't have just sat there to watch.

that probably wont happen. i expect they are coming back because of the VA's future works

Originally Posted by Teryaani

Their sacrifice is meaningless if they just come back.

No, their sacrifice is just meaningless.

After all, what is the point in holding them off when they have a full-fledged hero alongside them? I could've whipped out a sword and cut through dozens of them. It's not a noble sacrifice if you die for no reason at all. It would've made more sense to cave in the tunnel and prevent them from being able to follow. You know, like Y'shtola was planning to do only with less burying herself under it too. If I can cast a Holy spell which puts a dent into the Ultimate Weapon then you can bet Y'shtola can cast a spell to break a bit of rock. Honestly, it feels like a quick and dirty way to clean the slate so we have a new cast of characters in the expansion.

There really were plenty of better ways to go about it.