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  1. #111
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    There was no reason for the WoL to be in that predicament at all.

    It would have been more appropriate for the Sultana to invite Minfilia to her private chambers to have a girly chat.

    The Sultana is a stranger to the WoL more or less.

    I would have stayed at the Quicksands with Momodi, --whom I knew from Level 1--, until the banquet was finished.
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    I'd have just killed Teledji Adeledji and his brass blades when they wandered into the chamber alone. Then claim that they poisoned Nanamo (which they did) and say that they came in to try to finish me off so i could not testify against them, but i defeated them. Don't really know how to handle the situation with the braves, though


    It's a dirty tactic, but it'd work.
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  3. #113
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    And people wonder why we can't have choices and commit evil acts.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altanas View Post
    There was no reason for the WoL to be in that predicament at all.

    It would have been more appropriate for the Sultana to invite Minfilia to her private chambers to have a girly chat.

    The Sultana is a stranger to the WoL more or less.

    I would have stayed at the Quicksands with Momodi, --whom I knew from Level 1--, until the banquet was finished.
    I guess it's a bit different if you didn't start in Ul'Dah (I did), but I've met the Sultana on at least a few occasions so the meeting seemed at least somewhat normal. Why she'd need to divulge her political aspirations to a great warrior/ doormat/ errand boy is a bit beyond me though. I have no idea what the WoL would be expected to do with that information, because unless it involves nodding or glaring it's a bit out of our wheelhouse.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    And people wonder why we can't have choices and commit evil acts.
    I think 'Do nothing and watch the Sultana die' is pretty high on the list of evil acts to commit. And guess what... we did that too!
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    I think 'Do nothing and watch the Sultana die' is pretty high on the list of evil acts to commit. And guess what... we did that too!
    Believe me, I just as pissed as the next guy but killing someone like Teledji and without proof is not a very good idea. The best COA was to run. Besides, what do mean we did nothing? Who said we aren't taking back Ul'dah in 3.0? It's too early to tell.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    And people wonder why we can't have choices and commit evil acts.
    you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. (my personal choice would prolly be the later)
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altanas View Post
    I would have stayed at the Quicksands with Momodi, --whom I knew from Level 1--, until the banquet was finished.
    I don't trust Momodi ..

    1. She's a Lala
    2. She was WAY too quick about handing you back the empty poison bottle and making sure you hold on to it
    3. She's a Lala
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  9. #119
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    Etoile Kallera
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    The ramifications of all this seem to unravel what they were trying to accomplish with the plot.


    The Regicide. All this "going quietly" bit hinges of the assumption that Taledji needs you alive after the regicide, sure he needs a scapegoat, but does he really need one that talks?

    The bottle(which I found very stupid, it was laying on the ground and we just happen to pick it up? Not a single thought as to chucking it somewhere or figuring its just litter in a train stop?)

    So yes I would've escaped instead of killing taledji, perhaps a little more flair than usual, resulting in a jack sparrow like chase in Uldah. But let's assume we did it by the plot, all useless like.

    The Scions

    I can buy the idea of them gives their lives to escape. I didn't like the helplessness of it all and would have preferred to control my character during this, kicking ass with them once more before being told to "Go!"

    I would have drawn the line a little harder at Minfillia. The others are seasoned warriors, that was just throwing her life away as far as I'm concerned. It felt like a cheap excuse.

    The carriage driver

    Convenient.

    The ramifications

    OK, I get that we are accused of assassinating a head of state
    I get that a lot of the common folk don't buy it.
    I even get that there are some Brass Blades ordered to look for a adventurer accused of regicide not willing to try their luck at bringing me in.

    But who's missing in all this?

    The guys trying to bring me in!!

    I can't believe everyone presumes I'm innocent, or that I can go wherever I wish without at least some tosspot trying to do right by the law. It flies in the face of the seriousness of the crime, the capability of the opponents, needs of the plot.

    You can't go on about how the price of killing taledji and the blue guys would be too high when this is what happens when one is accused of killing THE RULER OF UL'DAH!

    *inhale*

    But let's assume despite having a private military force, me as a suspect to assassination, and more coin than Thal, they can't manage a manhunt or make me a levequest just yet
    .
    One would think that if any one organization would be capable of hunting and harrassing a particular adventurer on the run between the nations(except when not), it would at least be the now corrupt Crystal Braves.

    "But they can't be hunting everyone!" Instanced locations, restricted areas, the purple encounter gas, there are tools for this.

    As a whole, the ending felt like the devs tried to do a GTA type event, you know, the kind where a deal goes bad and you are left with a bad name and various factions on your tail. But they got several important parts of this wrong. In GTA like games, when stuff like this goes down it is clear there are places protected by factions than you can see and face as a consequence of the plot/player's actions, and it becomes clear that even though you can fight said factions, you'll need more than violence to remove them.
    Ffxiv gives no such occurrence of this happening. The player still has free passage, the crime and your pursuers all swept under the rug. Everyone involved down to the lackeys is still untouchable. At least give me the lackeys.


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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-03-2015 at 10:28 PM.

  10. #120
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    Helios Etoilefilante
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    I get the whole political thing to this. I also understand we were disarmed once taken into custody. We are, by and large, not responsible for political fallout we are tasked with ensuring our safety and the safety (as best we may) of those in the realm. We are soldiers in a sense and that means the enemies die and the politicians take care of the rest. As far as having no armament, we had a sleugh to chose from. The only hard part would have been geting unbound.
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    Again I saw that under the sun the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, nor riches to the intelligent, nor favor to those with knowledge, but time and chance happen to them all.

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