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  1. #81
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    If it meant the people on getting some sort of extra benefit, like a lower cost or better ping qualities, then yeah, all for that.

    it would definitely increase the value of play time, so that people aren't being quite so lazy while they are on. maybe less people will just sit around in MD, wasting time chatting, and spend more time actually doing things.
    So could you just go ahead and make this your signature so everyone knows to not take anything you say seriously?

    Housing that isn't meant "for everybody" that means that people are locked out of the decision to be able to get a house is a bad system. There's lots of time and effort they put into systems like coloring and training chocobos, gardening, and all the housing decorations you can make. Having that be locked to a segment of the population that had established itself on a server is a waste of resources. Defense of an obviously flawed and incomplete system like this is not what I thought would happen when I made this thread.
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    Last edited by Verdan; 03-31-2015 at 12:58 AM. Reason: also I was banned for 10 days cause I said a bad word

  2. #82
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    Miyafuji Yoshika
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    so even if they add more wards, it's going to be bought out in seconds of the servers coming back up, and you're just going to make another thread like this one complaining the server needs more wards. If you dont have a superior connection, a fast system, and at least 30 million gil on hand, you might as well forget buying a house on balmung.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    So could you just go ahead and make this your signature so everyone knows to not take anything you say seriously?

    Defense of an obviously flawed and incomplete system like this is not what I thought would happen when I made this thread.
    When you make a thread, you have to expect to hear from both sides.

    I happen to be on the side, that finds housing to be a pretty cool reward, for those that take the time to achieve them; the vanity version of finishing a relic, per say. I'm quite okay with it being gated behind the server population.

    I will agreed that it is flawed, but I dont think we agree on the way that it is flawed.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokochan View Post
    so even if they add more wards, it's going to be bought out in seconds of the servers coming back up, and you're just going to make another thread like this one complaining the server needs more wards. If you dont have a superior connection, a fast system, and at least 30 million gil on hand, you might as well forget buying a house on balmung.
    That's why you need to auto generate districts. Bottled demand means that things are gonna go very quickly, so they need to add them until things settle down. This is the fairest scenario and the one that makes the most gameplay sense.
    And yeah, I'd very much make another thread, probably titled "Land Needs Still Unmet on Balmung" if they added like 3 total districts and they were all snapped up in a matter of seconds. Because the land needs would still be unmet on Balmung.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    That's why you need to auto generate districts. Bottled demand means that things are gonna go very quickly, so they need to add them until things settle down. This is the fairest scenario and the one that makes the most gameplay sense.
    Well, just for clarity's sake, it's not like, on the same servers they have now, they can just crank up unlimited subdivisions now at no performance cost. It's just that they came up with a more efficient way to add/handle capacity internally. Adding more subdivisions or wards would still mean adding more servers. They said in the past that they'd be willing to do that to meet demand, but right now I think they're focusing more on the expansion and free company crafting. Adding more capacity would follow logically after that.

    I think the biggest issue is the fact that all the servers appear to be exact replicas of each other, creating a big disparity between the busy servers and the lighter ones. I don't know if it must be that way or not, but if so, it would probably make sense to offer emigration incentives.
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  6. #86
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    All players that own a house should have their subscription cost increased. All players that do not should have their subscription cost reduced.

    I am tired of subsidizing the development of features available exclusively to a bunch of whiny, entitled brats.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    All players that own a house should have their subscription cost increased. All players that do not should have their subscription cost reduced.

    I am tired of subsidizing the development of features available exclusively to a bunch of whiny, entitled brats.
    Thank you so much for that, it's been a long day and I needed a good laugh.

    I still fondly recall the day I got my house... I went to Lavendar Beds, found the plot I wanted, used the /gimme command and boom! it was mine. Sadly, /gimme seems to have been removed from the game, as it hasn't worked on anything else. I guess it worked that one time because I deserved it for being me, though as for why others got to /gimme a Medium or Large house instead, I have no idea and that doesn't seem fair. It's like the game decided to give the Medium and Large houses to people who already had the most expensive crafting and gathering tools and gear for their level 50's, how fair is that?! I went to the guy in Mor Dhona who had the Artisan stuff and went /gimme and got nothing.
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  8. #88
    Player Intaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    I went to the guy in Mor Dhona who had the Artisan stuff and went /gimme and got nothing.
    This just gave me a great idea! Since the housing system works so perfectly already, why not extend it to other parts of the game? Make it so there's only 500 pieces of foragers/artisan gear that can be bought from the Mor Dhona vendor! Same for the Supra and Lucis tools!

    Wouldn't that be great?
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by polyphonica View Post
    it would probably make sense to offer emigration incentives.
    What do you think housing is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    All players that own a house should have their subscription cost increased. All players that do not should have their subscription cost reduced.

    I am tired of subsidizing the development of features available exclusively to a bunch of whiny, entitled brats.
    I'm on board with this. I would gladly pay per month to have access to a house, just like I pay per month for retainers. Support the game more, get more benefits. sounds reasonable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    What do you think housing is?
    A broken system which gets continued development out of the pocket of players who have never and likely will never benefit from it.

    And again, if housing is to be considered just fine as is, why not limit things in other sectors of the game in the same way? Only a certain number of Artisan/Forager equipment can be purchased, only a certain number of drops from raids per server; once they're gone, they're gone!
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