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    just wasted another almost 90 minutes on this BS
    if this is what the expansion is going to be like i'll think twice about getting it

    I don't care how well you hardcore players can do this, to me, this is terrible waste of time
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    Last edited by ShinigamiKiba; 04-02-2015 at 11:44 AM.

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    Honestly it just baffles me how people think that all 'casual' content should be faceroll. This was the hardest story fight in a while and it was only because people are used to tank and spank rather than dealing with real mechanics. It is not even close to being like coil so take the time to see what's going on and overcome it.

    You are playing a game, the game gives you a bunch of tasks to complete and if it's practically impossible to fail then what are you actually doing? Not really anything. The entertainment from games is meant to be overcoming challenges with a set of rules in place.
    There is nothing wrong with being casual with your game time but it's not a real excuse for not doing any kind of challenge. It's just a matter of how you spend that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Honestly it just baffles me how.....
    to each their own
    to me if the game forces me to run something for 20 minutes just to fail and try again over minor mistakes that's bad game design

    180 minutes with no progress whatsoever? Dude, I'm neither made out of time nor money
    I love my game and I love doing stuff on my own time, but here the fight dictates the time I do not have
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba View Post
    180 minutes with no progress whatsoever? Dude, I'm neither made out of time nor money
    I love my game and I love doing stuff on my own time, but here the fight dictates the time I do not have
    I can agree that making you wait the full fight when you know you can't win is BS but making the content challenging isn't, if you lack the time to learn fights to overcome obstacles then you probably don't have time for videogames either. Coils only take 2 to 3 hours tops if your group is good enough, this is very accessible as the only thing stopping players from going further is how well they work together and for each role to do it's bit. Just takes practice and the will to learn. If you aren't doing anything that requires thinking or even a small amount of skill then what do you find fun about video games because it can't be the actual act of beating said game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba View Post
    to each their own
    to me if the game forces me to run something for 20 minutes just to fail and try again over minor mistakes that's bad game design

    180 minutes with no progress whatsoever? Dude, I'm neither made out of time nor money
    I love my game and I love doing stuff on my own time, but here the fight dictates the time I do not have
    Do note that this is only the 2nd, or 3rd day, of the patch only, depending on your timezone.

    If you don't want to waste your time to wipe, as for FC help, or just wait till next week.

    It's not even bad game design. It was cheesy as hell. Chryslias was technically a more difficult content because you actually need to know how to DPS decently at the very least.

    Steps of Faith? All you need to do is pray that your real adds, the 7 of them, aren't complete idiots who can't understand basic instructions which is essentially

    1) Tank the adds under the boss, where his under belly is, where his hitbox is.
    2) 2 dudes to fire the damn cannon at the boss's hitbox area to dmg both adds and boss
    3) The same 2 dudes doing the cannon to snare the boss (and of course do the stun)
    4) Dragonslayer dude fire the missle
    5) Rinse and repeat

    As long as you do the above properly, your DPSes can just press whatever button they like and still deal enough damage to kill the boss in the end. How difficult is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiKiba View Post
    just wasted another almost 90 minutes on this BS
    if this is what the expansion is going to be like i'll think twice about getting it

    I don't care how well you hardcore players can do this, to me, this is terrible waste of time
    Sad part is, it's not even hard :/ it's just idiots who don't listen, even when they say "ok" when you tell them what to do -.- Tired of this BS for tonight, been at it all day and haven't gotten closer than 30%. I'm all for more difficult fights or ones that are more engaging than "tank and spank", but apparently the majority of this game aren't and expect to just mindlessly plow through this.
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