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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asheilin View Post
    on Levi (also played on Diabolos, lamia and Malboro but have since deleted the alts) I'm one of the ones who commented back a few pages that Healers shouldn't be expected to dps because we're too busy! I actually dont main heal anymore simply because I am constantly running into the tanks/dps who prove KisaiTenshi is right. Data center full of trollers, who knows, but the end result.... Healers spend 98% of their time trying to keep their parties alive.
    If it truly is a Data Cluster issue in terms of bad players, I feel sorry for all of you. When players are i120+ and taking much too much damage in WoD / random 4-mans, that truly is just bad players.

    But I guess that explains some of the debate going on too (to a degree).

    Quote Originally Posted by Asheilin View Post
    On a side note, alot of people came to FFXIV from other mmos; mmos which DISCOURAGE healers dpsing because thats not their job and will cause people to wipe. Healers have dps spells to level when they're not in dungeons.
    I don't disagree with this as most MMOs tend to have some sort of "spec system" and you're generally doing some sort of DPS spec while leveling / soloing and I don't see Cleric's Stance implementation to be any different from that.

    What makes Cleric's Stance unique is the fact that you can activate at any moment, where as every other MMO I've played to date that does this usually has some sort of restriction. This makes your healer a fantastic DPS and thus you should be making use of this when opportunities present themselves.

    Keywords: when opportunities present themselves

    If you're healing 95% of the time because of derpy players, well, you're healing 95% of the time because you just cannot afford to DPS.
    If you aren't DPSing when the tank is an i130 tank doing single pack pulls in Snowcloak, well, prepare for something like 80% idle time (or even 100% in the case of a SCH). So, why not DPS? <<< This is where comments about lazy come in.

    Here are my metrics for healers:
    Terrible - Full time DPS, or just letting me die ALL THE TIME to things outside of my control
    Average - Keeping party health full, doing nothing more and nothing less to contribute
    Excellent - Making effective use of cooldowns to help maintain party health, using idle healing time to produce additional DPS for the party to help defeat trash/bosses faster, adapting to unforeseen situations as they occur

    I personally don't like to call people lazy, but I can appreciate where the comments themselves come from and respect the opinion.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 04-02-2015 at 01:09 AM.

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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    If it truly is a Data Cluster issue in terms of bad players, I feel sorry for all of you.
    Reddit, 4chan, Something Awful are all on my (Legacy) server and therefor the Data Center. So maybe it's just tilted towards derpy trolls or something. Also just about everyone I know outside FFXIV who is playing FFXIV somehow managed to create their characters here.

    Back on topic: I'll probably give AST a try, but I'm of the opinion that unless SE finds a way to give us more inventory space for the Armory, we're going to have some epic whine about not being able to to share gear between AST/SCH/WHM.
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