the new trial is too hard

[BubblyBoar]

I dont really like putting DPS on cannons. Both times I've cleared it,w e had 1 tank and 1 healer on cannons. Most tanks I've seen can grab everythign and pull it to the main boss. If anyone else does get aggro, they just pull it to the tank just fine. Sure, an extra tank will make the MT's job easier, but it's also slower and more likely to fail. With all DPS out DPSing, we've kill the main boss right after he broke the final ward.

[Alberel]

The trial itself isn't hard, the problem is the players that refuse to communicate or coordinate. The mechanics require the majority of the party to have assigned roles with the cannons, chains and dragon-killer. If players stay silent the whole time and refuse to listen to instructions they will not win... unfortunately up until now the DF has taught a lot of players to do just that.

[Magusrex]

I have not tried this yet but the OP has made my day. I think that is great news. Take some ownership and give some instructions, after trying it so much he should understand the mechanics by now. If he does that when he is finally victorious he will have a sense of satisfaction he has not had before. Being the reason a group succeeds doing something new and challenging is more rewarding than just progressing the story by going from point A to point B.

[Lemuel81]

The trial itself isn't hard, the problem is the players that refuse to communicate or coordinate. The mechanics require the majority of the party to have assigned roles with the cannons, chains and dragon-killer. If players stay silent the whole time and refuse to listen to instructions they will not win... unfortunately up until now the DF has taught a lot of players to do just that.

Pretty much what Alberel said. Mmos in general lack fights that take group coordination and communication. SE give us more of this type of content. We want fights that require group effort. Not dodge this, dodge that=win.

[Tempting]

The problem with this fight is that you only get 3-4 attempts per duty roulette timer, if you fail to fix problems its back to 100% square one with noone knowing anything.

[Raeletta]

I am with people on the timer issue. Was it the Praetorium I think, that had its timer extended on an early patch for a similar reason?

Also, a method to restart, say 6 characters (To prevent trolls) talking to an npc at the start of the bridge to reset maybe?

[Ghasto]

What's so hard about tanks bringing mobs under the boss and blasting with cannons. This fight is all about the Dps doing something other then mindless spam on the boss.
I did it in DF in two wipes with 6 ppl that was their first time also. If you do the mechanics you will win.

But the best way to do the fight is to have all 4 DPS on the boss, one of them will be on Dragonkiller duty but the other 3 should never stop hitting him.
1 tank and 1 healer should be on cannon/snare duty since you don't need them both to be tanking/healing. Leaving the DPS to wreck face.

[Zfz]

Beats the hell out of me, but usually by the time we get to the end the adds are overwhelming in number, usually just killing people over and over again that try to get close, and Vishap isn't even close to being dead.

You should not even be near Vishap, let alone the adds. Only the tanks (or even just 1 tank) need to be by Vishap, he can catch all the adds as they come for the healer, if the healer is properly positioned.

Vishap&Adds&Tank-----Healer------DPS&Cannons

That's all you need to do. AOE? What AOE? Adds overwhelm your tank because you're not using the cannons to take them out. Cannons deal 2000 AOE damage per shot. It's far stronger than any DPS is capable of in the game now.

On the run that I cleared it as healer, we had exactly that formation I noted above. I only needed to heal 2 people: regen on the tank and maybe one or two Cures, and another one being a BRD who refuse to stay on the cannons and get hit by adds AOEs as you mention.

The fight doesn't need to be toned down. You're just doing it wrong. What you're asking for, is to break the fight so you can complete the trial using your wrong methods. It's like asking for the last boss in Tamtara (normal) to not go invincible when Imps are up because you don't want to kill the Imps.

But the best way to do the fight is to have all 4 DPS on the boss, one of them will be on Dragonkiller duty but the other 3 should never stop hitting him.
1 tank and 1 healer should be on cannon/snare duty since you don't need them both to be tanking/healing. Leaving the DPS to wreck face.

DPS whacking on the boss behind the boss means tanks have to move around collecting adds. Extra healing pressure with DPS who can't avoid AOE or who are so trigger happy they just have to put AOE on the adds (hey look at my meter I top the charts!) Extra healing means extra enmity so tanks have to spend extra resources maintaining aggro...

[Velhart]

You should not even be near Vishap, let alone the adds. Only the tanks (or even just 1 tank) need to be by Vishap, he can catch all the adds as they come for the healer, if the healer is properly positioned.

Vishap&Adds&Tank-----Healer------DPS&Cannons

That's all you need to do. AOE? What AOE? Adds overwhelm your tank because you're not using the cannons to take them out. Cannons deal 2000 AOE damage per shot. It's far stronger than any DPS is capable of in the game now.

On the run that I cleared it as healer, we had exactly that formation I noted above. I only needed to heal 2 people: regen on the tank and maybe one or two Cures, and another one being a BRD who refuse to stay on the cannons and get hit by adds AOEs as you mention.

The fight doesn't need to be toned down. You're just doing it wrong. What you're asking for, is to break the fight so you can complete the trial using your wrong methods. It's like asking for the last boss in Tamtara (normal) to not go invincible when Imps are up because you don't want to kill the Imps.

As a DPS you still need to DPS Vishap himself some. If you do just the mechanics alone it only takes him down to 20% I believe. At least 20% of the boss needs to be DPS'ed by normal means. Or at least that is what I saw. All you have to do though is just be behind him. Will not get hit by the feet. If you have to do a positional, just wait till his foot is down then do it.

[Ghasto]

DPS whacking on the boss behind the boss means tanks have to move around collecting adds. Extra healing pressure with DPS who can't avoid AOE or who are so trigger happy they just have to put AOE on the adds (hey look at my meter I top the charts!) Extra healing means extra enmity so tanks have to spend extra resources maintaining aggro...

You talk as though anything in this fight hurts, healing pressure? what healing pressure?
As a melee DPS you just stay under Vishap, ranged can be underneath or way off to the side, doesn't matter. Do the fight like I described and you'll kill him before the 3rd Dragonkiller is in range.