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  1. #11
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Again, not talking about the CD at all.

    Everyone using mudras should know there is a very short cd on them and take that into account. I'm only talking about AFTER the CD is over. Pressing them as fast as humanly possible taking into account only the CD.

    Besides that fact, when I'm experiencing no delay, I can get all 3 mudras finished for a Huton before the global CD is off on other skills. They were designed to be this way. To be able to be pressed as fast as humanly possible while global CD is up, which is possible when there is no delay.

    They were meant to be able to be pressed fast enough to be able to be weaved in while global CD is up.
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    Last edited by Adire; 03-29-2015 at 09:56 PM.

  2. #12
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    I don't know about you, but Hallowed Ground does too still.
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  3. #13
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    Taliph Stillwood
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Crafting macros can easily break due to lag. So much so in fact that I have two copy's of each of my crafting macros, one with "perfect" wait times and one with "perfect +1" wait... Seriously need timing client side for a lot of this stuff to work as intended.
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  4. #14
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    Kaishen Commodore
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Anything you can do in queue'd quick succession is prone to screwing up because the game doesn't handle rollbacks/trust with the client very well at all.

    I get it the odd time on BLM when I swiftcast Flare and the game decides I get to hardcast the Flare instead, despite the swiftcast buff clearing being up and ticking away. It's just more punishing for NIN because they can't correct the mistake, they're stuck getting the bunny or the wrong Mudra going out instead.
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    Last edited by Kaisha; 03-29-2015 at 10:03 PM.

  5. #15
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    Elusana_Celah's Avatar
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Titan Extreme says hi
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  6. #16
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Goblin
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    Sage Lv 90
    It's extremely difficult to get the timing right, even with no lag. With other skills, I will press the button 2 or 3 times in order to queue the skill as soon as it becomes available, and I'm sure others do the same. Obviously you CANNOT do this with mudras or you're going to mostly likely double up by accident and either get bunny or a different ninjutsu. Pressing when you "think" the CD is over is dangerous. I always press, wait a split second to see if it goes through, if yes press the next one if not re-do. It's kind of annoying but that's mudra, you cannot rush even at optimal no lag.

    As stated above, it happens with other stuff too (see benediction) it's just really really noticeable with mudras.
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  7. #17
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    It's not really that difficult. The sound a mudra makes when it's successfully casted is what I go by before using the next one. That's how you can guarantee you don't mess up (unless you hit the wrong mudra entirely by accident or feel like lag is slowing you down too much and press them impulsively like I do occasionally). When I'm not lagging, the first mudra has casted by the time I use the second one and I don't even have to intentionally wait.

    If your fingers are prepared, you can pretty much match the half second CD almost flawlessly and weave it in perfectly between the global CD (minus animations of course), assuming there's no lag. I'd like to think I have fast fingers, and when there's no delay, the CD really almost matches how fast I can press the buttons.

    Mudras have a 0.5 second cooldown. If someone was able to reliably get the right mudra consistently in their play much faster than this without computer assistance such as with macros, I'd be genuinely surprised.
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    Last edited by Adire; 03-29-2015 at 10:24 PM.

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    Ephier Samoht
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    Mudra is not the only thing that suffers from lag, mudra just makes the issue a lot more apparent, sadly.
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  9. #19
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    Rem Crescent
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    Ragnarok
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyarel View Post
    Everything else works without issue. Mundra's it seems is the only set of skills that have issues if theres even the slightest issue with the network.
    Its called bad and lazy design. For me, with summoner, it is the worst job could ever be done. Starting using another class, rogue (thief), that, even if similar and both have some common trait, are 2 different jobs with their own skills, they tried to design this mudras system to give as many ninjutsu as possible given only the 5 jobs skills and not stay in line with other jobs. I would like to see Ninja and Summoner reworked with good design instead of having those trash jobs
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  10. #20
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    Lucceia Verres
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Titan Extreme says hi
    Oddly enough, Titan HM and EX never gave me lag issues. But NM? Lag harder than a tomato powered modem.
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