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  1. #21
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    Lucke's Avatar
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I'd like to bring it back. My proposed changes:

    General:
    Enemies attack. They will have random objectives you have to figure out in battle. They include: destroying a structure, kidnapping an NPC, sabotaging defenses, etc.
    Each archtype would be involved in some way.

    DoW/M:
    These guys jobs are obvious, find out what the enemies objectives are by watching where they go and what they attack and prevent them from doing so.

    DoH:
    Craft special items to give to the Hamlet quartermaster. The item handed in will give different benefits depending on the crafter class. These act as buffs/abilities the DoW/M can use. Example: A BSM makes a special sword and hands it in to the quartermaster. All DoW now have an ability called "Sharp Sword" with increases dmg by x% for n seconds. But it only has as many charges as the BSM handed in items. If the BSM only handed in one item, "Sharp Sword" only has one charge per DoW. The BSM would need to hand in more items for the DoW to get more charges. ALC can make potions that the defenders can use, ARMs can give the tanks a DEF ability, etc.

    Crafters also build and maintain structures around the camp. They build walls and towers that can help keep mobs out. As they get damaged, the crafters will have to decide what's more important: feeding the defenders ability charges, or keeping the defenses active.

    DoL:
    Gather mats for the crafters. Fed to the quartermaster to be given to the crafters.

    That's all I can think of up the top of my head.
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  2. #22
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    Kotemon's Avatar
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    Tobias Shadowmane
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    There would be mobs that pour through the gate that would try to destroy the carts which you pretty much defended the entire time. You had a bunch of friendly NPCs that would attack them that were placed in between them and the various carts. The carts were basically defenseless..
    Sounds a lot like that Quirin fate on that bridge near dry bone
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  3. #23
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    Galliano's Avatar
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    Mog Net
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I remember enjoying hamlet defence at the start, it only got boring and annoying after running it hundreds of times. If it was brought back it could easily be fixed by removing the terrible drop rates and server group point system, couple that with some new and interesting things for DoL/DoH to do and I think it would be very fun.
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  4. #24
    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    It was an instance that was pretty much like tower defense, it's been so long so I don't remember exactly what the setup was and completely how it worked.

    There would be mobs that pour through the gate that would try to destroy the carts which you pretty much defended the entire time.
    Sounds like the wings of the goddess tower defense in FFXI.
    Monsters would attack from different angles till you defeated them or they ran away.
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  5. #25
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Genz View Post
    Btw, we need a campaign-like system in FFXIV, because it's one of the few concepts that can actually legitimise the "MMO" appellation.
    Going forwards with 3.0 it would fit into the general theme of the xpansion of being a war between Ishgard and Dravania. Which could expand into 4.0 if they take us towards Ala Mhigo and progress the conflict with Garleans. As l;ong as, what happened many times in FFXI, you aren't waiting for ages (like upto an hour) for another wave of mobs to appear XD

    Also if they did it the same as FFXI where you had to flag, unflagged meant no mob aggro, they could add them to all zones. Also to not turn it into a hunt type zerg fest some changes would need to be done too. Maybe having mutliple pop at the same time to spread the population around with some form of limits so you couldnt mass zerg one, go to next, mass zerg that, rinse repeat.

    Had another thought. How would you stop it turning into a matter of stacking BLMs and just AEing them all down in seconds?
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 03-28-2015 at 11:26 PM.

  6. #26
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HeroSamson View Post
    Sounds like the wings of the goddess tower defense in FFXI.
    Monsters would attack from different angles till you defeated them or they ran away.
    When they decided to turn up XD

    You could be waiting upwards of an hour between waves for them to actually make an appearance :S
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  7. #27
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I enjoyed it, as a healer Much movement, more team play and discussion.

    Can see nothing wrong with adding it.
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  8. #28
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Which could expand into 4.0 if they take us towards Ala Mhigo and progress the conflict with Garleans.
    Since we're going into the unexplored northwest section of the continent, going into the unexplored northeast (and final) section of the continent makes so much sense, that I absolutely believe that this will NOT happen for the second expansion. We will go somewhere else entirely, and come back to this for the 3rd or 4th expansion.
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