People Need to Start Respecting Healers More

[Aeyis]

Ho well, people, get real!

DPS can shine just on a few places, that are called the "dps checks". Those are the battles where what it counts, are DPS show off how good they are. And those are the battles where all pugs will FAIL. Utterly FAIL. Today all those checks are passed only because DPS are overgeared for the place. But even today, the "good" dps are still few numbers.

Tanks are requested to know every detail of the duty, every single inch of the map, and make things without any margin of error. Any tank fault is a wipe. They cannot fail.

Healers is little easier than tank, just watch health, cure, and dispel what is needed. And follow mechanics as everyone else. But again, if they mess something, a wipe is something that can easily happen. They have that burden too.

DPS is the easiest job of all. They can go in a duty totally blind, and just burn down whatever the Tanks aggroes. It is so easy job, that it is the master choice of almost everyone. Long queue times, yes, really you wonder why?

When it comes to something the DPS have to do in order to succeed on a duty, even so simple to require at least a glimpse how the mechanics are on a duty, that duty will be automatically defined as the most hard of the game.

You seem a bit biased there.

[tjw]

I find the last one hard to believe. I've never met someone that actually expected a WHM to tank.

One notable example of expectations placed on WHM to tank is in T9. You'll be required to tank one of the golems.

[Ashkendor]

That's just you personally. I've never done a Cutters Cry where the tank didnt just leave the adds on me all the time. I don't understand why people have to be lazy and not do the proper (and easy) tactic... it's the same thing with turn 2 and its enrage.

Honestly, I ask the healer if they're OK with kiting adds. Usually the answer is 'yes'.

In the case that the answer is 'no' I just pick up the adds. *shrug*

One notable example of expectations placed on WHM to tank is in T9. You'll be required to tank one of the golems.

True, I forgot about that one. The bard also tanks one, though. When there is an OT, the WHM doesn't have to tank anything. I'd be happy to take all 3 as solo tank but well supergolem. :3

[Mandze]

Given that 90% of the content in this game can be steamrolled since everybody is so ridiculously overgeared, I tend to use commendations more to thank people for being pleasant than to recognize skill or anything like that. It is almost impossible to see who really is *good* in just about any of the content that I'd consider PUG-able.

[Lyrinn]

One notable example of expectations placed on WHM to tank is in T9. You'll be required to tank one of the golems.

That's a joke example though; the golem hardly does any damage. In fact, I think of it more as "holding" it in place rather than tanking. Plus, the only reason WHM is expected to tank it is because T9 is usually done solo tank. Back when it was relevant and some groups ran duo tank, each tank would grab one and bard grabbed the third.

[razielvh]

all players should just start respecting one another more, might make a more inviting community.

[Krr]

You seem a bit biased there.

It's funny because my experience seems to be the opposite. Screw up minorly on DPS? Silent disapproval at best, vote dismissal at worse. Screw up majorly when I tank? No, it's okay! Please don't go! We don't want to wait 10+ minutes for another!

[Elmeron]

There was one time in Leviathan Extreme. I as a WHM solo heal from the 1st tidal wave until we beat the Leviathan because the other healer took a dive. I used everything from shroud of saint to X-ethers to keep my mp up. Raising people before they fall to the sea because they can't seem to dodge the Levi dive, esuna'd people who got HEAVY debuff because they cant seem to dodge AOE, healing both tanks til i get 15 briny veil debuffs. I think i did a good job keeping them alive, but... no commendation at all.

And the healer who took a dive rolled and got the mirror, when he didnt even do anything. I almost cried myself because in 20 runs, that's the only time the mirror dropped and the one that got it was that dumb (sorry) healer who couldnt even dodge AOE.

What I learn: Why should I give comms when people are doing a good job? Because they never give comms to me. Makes sense.
From that time on until now, I never give commendations to anyone anymore.
I've lost my faith to the humanity.

I've had similar experiences, but it didn't turn me this salty, I still give out commendations when people do a good job and deserve them.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

"I dont get the expected commendations as a healer" -> "WTF people respect me!!!".

No.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

because the other healer took a dive.

And the healer who took a dive rolled and got the mirror, when he didnt even do anything.

When you join a DF you are not entitled to anything in terms of loot. You are just 1 out of the 8 players with the same rights when it comes to the loot chest.

Didnt you know that the mirror loot is free for all and RNG based before you started the trial?

Im glad the other healer got it even if he was a bad player. The mirror is a randomly attributed reward and it worked correctly. Perhaps this bad healer used it to augment his weapon then joined a good group and finally get good at the game who knows? Perhaps you needed this just for useless glamour purposes.

Sure thing is , that expecting RNG to reward you for being awesome in a fight is just plain dumb. You cant blame the game if you still have such bias.