It doesn't matter how good of a DRG you are.

[Adire]

Can't speak for everyone, but if some of them are like me, the whole Dragoon tanking the floor thing is just poking fun. I like to joke with Dragoons. Try to not take it too seriously.

I play it occasionally myself, so I have the right!

[seekified]

Hats off to all the good DRGs. You guys actually have to think a lot more about your things than I do as Monk (All I need to really pay attention to is how I can avoid sacrificing myself to the Greased Lightning Gods) :P

I appreciate that. xD I don't mind people poking fun at us, but when there's talk of not taking a DRG to a fight simply because it's a DRG, I get annoyed.

Heavy Thrust had most likely worn off by that point. They probably wanted to reapply it before performing any jumps as it's a DPS loss otherwise.

Exactly this. I might SD unbuffed if I'm at max skill distance or if the situation dictates it, but otherwise I'd rather wait the 2.5-10s it takes to get my buffs up. In t9 p1-p2 I use Elusive Jump after Beam as a substitute to get back quickly without sacrificing a good skill.

So true too long CD for it and the other Jump *forgot name* doesnt bring you to the boss

Spineshatter Dive's cooldown is fine now I think, but Dragonfire Dive should be reduced to 120 or even 90 seconds. Its potency isn't amazing and the chances you get to actually make it a useful AoE skill are few. Having a shorter cooldown on it would make us more mobile, but remember to use Elusive Jump as a gap closer as well. On second adds phase in t10 for instance, I kill the first group, SD to the second, DFD to the third then Elusive Jump back to the boss if I'm far enough away and don't need to flank for a Heavy Thrust. Works great.

[OMEGA_HACK]

The Recast on Dragonfire Dive is long (as are all the lv50 Job abilities), but as for it not being very potent...as an off global cooldown (and since they removed the animation-lock associated with it) its a nice additional 1200-1500 dmg attack (buffed) to string into the beafy part of a DRGs very long rotation.

Yes the timer is a longer one, but its far from being completely useless. Of course this is if you don't need to use it as a form of quickly moving across the battlefield.

[Werhusky]

but remember to use Elusive Jump as a gap closer as well. On second adds phase in t10 for instance, I kill the first group, SD to the second, DFD to the third then Elusive Jump back to the boss if I'm far enough away and don't need to flank for a Heavy Thrust. Works great.

Will hand this on to our dragoon Im main sch and appreciate this hint ^^

[seekified]

The Recast on Dragonfire Dive is long (as are all the lv50 Job abilities), but as for it not being very potent...as an off global cooldown (and since they removed the animation-lock associated with it) its a nice additional 1200-1500 dmg attack (buffed) to string into the beafy part of a DRGs very long rotation.

Yes the timer is a longer one, but its far from being completely useless. Of course this is if you don't need to use it as a form of quickly moving across the battlefield.

I definitely don't think it's useless either, but for most fights it's basically a Full Thrust with a three-minute cooldown. :P The movement it offers is nice for add phases but it's so rarely available the way it is now.

Will hand this on to our dragoon Im main sch and appreciate this hint ^^

Glad to help!

[Novaura]

It doesn't matter how good of a dragoon you are - you'll always be considered a lesser DPS than any other job out there.

Sorry to burst your bubble but I have over 650 player commendations, all earned as a Dragoon that says otherwise. You may not realize it, but Dragoons are better than you give us credit for.

[myahele]

Other than being easier to use and a piercing debuff, DRG just don't offer much raid utility